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About Mayner

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    Born Dublin, lived most of my life in Dublin and the UK. One time builder, moved to New Zealand several years ago. One time WHHR Volunteer Portmadoc, track ganger, diesel loco driver and bulldozer driver, plant operator, now an Armchair


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    My family, solving problems, anything to do with railways, travel, blues, rock, jazz, stirring thing

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  1. Mayner

    Yet another new book!

    Definitely seems appears to be a sequel to "Narrow Gauge Album", the original is definitely worth while seeking out in second hand bookstores or Amazon for its account of the early days of the preservation movement and stories of railway operation. Following on on Noel's suggestion a series of pictorials of lines in the Midlands would be nice, perhaps combining colour and black and white photos with condensed versions of J P O'Dea's John O'Meara's, and N J McAdams IRRS papers would really bring the operation of these lines in the 1950s & 60s to life. The IRRS papers are very useful from a modelling perspective usually including details of motive power and traffic patterns and station track layouts. John O'meara published papers on the Meath Line and Tuam Branch, NJ McAdams The Mayo Line and J P O'Dea just about everywhere else including the Banagher & Ballaghdereen Branches The more recent Ian Allen/Midland Publishing Irish Railway Pictorial series contain high quality photos through from the steam age to the present including albums on the Great Southern Railways, Great Northern Railways, a number of regional and narrow gauge albums.
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    During the 1950s the GNR introduced the "Derry Vacuum" Dublin-Strabane-Foyle Road express goods service for urgent overnight traffic to Donegal. The Vacuum appears to have been initially an AEC railcar set hauling a couple of fitted vans and container wagons, before morphing into the Derry Goods of the UTA/NIR era. This seems to have been the first fully fitted express freight train in Ireland the precursor of the modern Liner Train running close to passenger train speeds with power braking on all wagons. JHB may be able to correct me but Dundalk appears to have been what the Americans call a division point for Dublin-Belfast operation with NIR crews operating cross border freight services. This would have been tied up with pre-1993 Customs examination and working arrangements with the CIE & NIR Unions. This lead to trip working from Dundalk to Adelaide with quite varied wagon consists (keg, container, bulk cement, fertiliser in the one train) compared to the more uniform wagons consists south of the Border. One of the more interesting workings were loose coupled trains carrying Harp Larger traffic between Dundalk and Adelaide operated into the early 80s. These trains included the unusual combination of modern 4w keg wagons and 30t brake vans. Loose coupled operation ceased when the keg traffic was transferred from the station to Barrack St Yard. The early 90s was probably the busiest time for cross border freight operation when Freightliners Ltd ceased their Holyhead-Dublin sailings and attempted to serve Dublin by a rail connection off its Liverpool-Belfast sailings. This resulted in Freightliners chartering two daily return Belfast-Dublin liner trains to handle traffic to and from the South.
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    Goods Yard Building

    Tony: The different levels make it much more visually interesting compared to a conventional flat baseboard and helps to make sense of the unusual and distinctive split level goods/shed grain store. The track that leads from the y turnout into the goods shed should be long enough for a loco and at least one or two wagons otherwise it will be difficult to run round while shunting the yard. The low relief goods shed looks really effective and there is no doubt that the model is based on Omagh. I would be inclined to to curve the backscene behind the shed rather than leave it at a 90 angle.
  4. For years I thought that I had imagined seeing a big blue steam loco until I saw a colour slide of 171 about 10 years later and borrowed a copy of Colin Boockocks irish Railway Album from the library complete with several photos of 207. Ours was firmly a car and bus family, my first train ride was around 69 or 70 in a compartment coach with wooden paneling behind a black noisy diesel from Killiney to Tara Street.
  5. That's interesting about 207 still working Belfast-Dublin excursions in the summer of 65. My early railway memories possibly earlier than 65 was of a big blue steam loco leading a long train across the viaduct at Gormanstown Strand and dark green trains without an engine at the front.
  6. Both Steam Era Models (Black Beetle Motor Bogies) & Hollywood Foundry (Bull-Ant) in Australia will supply 21mm gauge motor bogies & chassis to order. Hollywood Foundry will produce chassis to any gauge upwards of N including 12mm for Irish 3' and English Broad Gauge for modelers who are in to that sort of thing.
  7. The choice between 21mm and OO is really about whether a person draws the more satisfaction from the technical and physical challenges of building to an odd-ball gauge or building and operating a layout using rtr stock. For someone wanting to build a large layout within a reasonable time frame or a continuous run in a restricted space OO or even EM is probably a better option than 21mm gauge. Mounting the layout near eye level and using Bullhead or Peco Code 75 track will reduce the narrow gauge look of OO gauge track. It should be possible to build an continuous run 21mm layout to OO standards with No 2 or No 3 radius curves and NMRA 110 wheels , but the gauge would have to be reduced below 21mm to provide sufficient splasher and cylinder clearance with steam locos which is probably not worth the effort, though a couple of modelers model Irish broad gauge on EM track. (Templot) Martin Wynne has specifies a track gauge of 20.2mm with a 1mm flangeway gap and a minimum recommended radius of 1000mm for Irish broad gauge track laid to EMGS standards. The gauge was presumably reduced the risk of EMF wheels fouling steam loco splashers and coupling rods/crossheads on outside cylinder steam locos. The flangeway clearances would have to be increased to 1.5mm and wider NMRA wheels and the gauge narrowed further to avoid the problem of the minimum radius is reduced to 600mm. I don't know if any 5'3" gauge modeler has reduced the gauge to 20.2mm , clearances are tight but workable with Gibson & Ultrascale EMF profile wheels wheels. The distance between splashers/coupling rods cross heads on outside cylinders would have to be increased or the gauge reduced if you intend using steam locos with NMRA 110 profile wheels. NMRA 110 profile wheels with b-b set 1t 19.3 fouling splashers on SSM J15.
  8. North Yard in New Zealand supply a 28mm 2.03dia blackened brass pin point axle @ $0.90NZ (app £0.48) Item 471 delivery approx 2 weeks postage app $15-20NZ per order. Northyard.co.nz North Yard wheels and axles are mainly intended for modelling S scale use. I have used these axles successfully with Alan Gibson and Hornby wheels in 21mm gauge and with North Yard wheels in OO. An alternative is to extend a standard 26mm axle by cutting and sleeving with 2mm inside diameter brass tube available from Eileen's Emphorium in the UK. I haven't worked out mimimum track centers for 21mm, distance will vary subject to a number of factors including track alignment, lineside structures, min vehicle width and length. The MGWR loading gauge specified a minimum of 6'2⅝" rail centre-rail centre between tracks, very close to the nominal 6' way or 24mm in 4mm Distance between running roads needs to be increased above a min 24mm on curved trackage and between running lines and yard trackage and between tracks in yards where people were likely to be working. I ran into problems with side swiping between 60'X9'6" coaches on curved track laid at a min radius of 3' and 24mm between tracks.
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    OO Works 101 - Coming Closer!

    119 may have been fitted with a large tender to increase coal and water capacity for working Limerick-Sligo goods trains, there is a photo of 229 with a large tender on a southbound goods at Ballycar. Before closure the Limerick Sligo goods only called at the principal stations south of Claremorris before calling at all intermediate stations Claremorris to Sligo. There was a similar arrangement with the North Wall-Ballina goods which basically operated as a limited stop service Northwall-Claremorris before calling at all stations on the branch. West of Athlone a Midland Standard goods worked the train due to weight restrictions on the Ballina Branch.
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    OO Works 101 - Coming Closer!

    It just occurred to me that the J15s were originally a Beyer Peacock design supplied to both the GSWR and Dublin and Drogheda Railway in the 1860s. These is a photo of one crossing the Boyne Bridge on the cover of an IRRS Journal, its possible that they may have worked into Portadown in GNR days. A J15 in GNR livery would be a good talking point, not sure when the ex DDR locos were withdrawn but some Ulster Railway and Irish North Western 0-6-0s survived into the late 1940s
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    OO Works 101 - Coming Closer!

    Leslie could always work on the basis that the Midland reached Armagh and obtained running powers over the GNR to Belfast and Antrim. The Carrickmacross Branch was built with the intention of blocking the Midland extending from Kingscourt to Castleblaney and Armagh. A J15 worked a weedkiller train from Mullingar to Dundalk via Cavan and Clones in CIE days. Apparently the arrival of a "foreign" loco unexpectedly in Dundalk lead to some calls to train control, possibly more an issue of maintaining custom and practice in rostering arrangements than anything else. A Dundalk crew may have felt that they should have worked the train through from the junction with the "Southern" at Cavan, a light engine run from Dundalk to Cavan to pick up the train would have been a nice little earner to a Northern Crew especially with traffic drying up on the Irish North with the closure of the lines west of Clones and the ending of the coal specials from Belturbet to the Drogheda Cement factory.
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    A Gaggle of J15s

    Has an interesting experience today: I managed to break two 1.2mm drill bits while boring out some frame spacers in the lathe for tapping last night. Went to one of the local machine tool suppliers, two of the assistants were playing in the stock room the other sulking behind the counter. Didn't have the sized I needed in stock, said "I only work here" when I asked him if there was an engineering supplier in town. He eventually muttered that there was another supplier in town but "they are terrible people". The "terrible people" turned out to be very helpful and friendly and had the bits in stock, I guess I wont be going back to the 1st supplier.
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    7mm scale 101 - a tribute to Richard Chown

    The kit was designed by the late Eamonn Kearney an active modeler who worked to S4 standards, he designed the majority of the TMD and SSM loco and coach kits. From memory Terry McDermott was mainly interested in pre-group Midland Railway in 7mm scale, I had a look at the test build of the J15 in Terry's house before buying the kit. The J15 was one of the first TMD kits to incorporate elements of slot and tab and modular construction, quite advanced by the standards of kit design in the early-mid 1980s. We seem to have taken opposite directions in assembling the running-board, I retained the temporary splashers and removed the central section with my two locos. O gauge is expensive in comparison with OO but no where near as expensive as Gauge 1 or Large scale narrow gauge where ready to run plastic and brass locos cost upwards of $1000, but you get a lot more metal or plastic for your money than in N or OO
  14. Ian McNally has re-introduced some of the wagons in his MIR range and they are available on e-bay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/sylvimcnall-0/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from= Kieran has recently covered the assembly of a rake of the bagged cement wagons in his RM Kirley Thread. The bagged cement wagons are in resin with some very nice whitemetal castings
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    Etched parts for MGWR Horsebox & Fish/Meat van.

    Bit too close to home! Horsemeat seems to have been a standard ingredient in hamburgers supplied by Irish processors to the British market for several years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_horse_meat_scandal#ABP_Food_Group.

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