BosKonay Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I love buffers Would like to open a chat on the various options available for modellers - from 'RTP' (ready to plonk) to white metal kits, brass etchings, resin castings - that represent irish or irish-able buffers in all their glory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) Example of the concrete block type http://eiretrains.com/Photo_Gallery/Railway%20Stations%20S/Sallins/slides/Sallins_20090601_015_CC_JA.html (probably easy enough to bash?) Edited January 12, 2013 by BosKonay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 one from Ballybrophy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 News one in Heuston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jhb171achill Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Those big concrete ones were mass produced by the GSR and are to seen all over the former GSR system - easy to make! In a rural setting, cover them with ivy, in an urban one, graffiti! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 The look easy enough to mould! Then glue a sleeper to the front! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Broithe Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Old and new on the Nenagh platform at Ballybrophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Weshty Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Lovely collection there lads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Does anyone know what the small metal clamps behind the modern buffers are? I assume from their appearance and location they are designed to 'brake' the buffer should it ever get hit and move? Don't suppose anyone makes a whitemetal or something version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Broithe Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Does anyone know what the small metal clamps behind the modern buffers are? I assume from their appearance and location they are designed to 'brake' the buffer should it ever get hit and move?Don't suppose anyone makes a whitemetal or something version? Just that. They are a sort of additive brake. The buffer stop is merely clamped to the rail such that it will slide, if hit hard enough, but there is quite a bit of friction involved, due to the clamp blocks. If the clamps on the stop itself don't have enough friction to halt the progress, then, the whole assembly will start to slide on the rails. It will then successively 'collect' each pair of additional brakes, thus adding to the friction available in a series of steps, and thus providing a very high braking force when it becomes needed, but not applying such a high force for a smaller impact. To some extent, though, it does rely on those fish-plate bolts surviving the additional force pulling the rails apart, too. That may be why there's a bit of additional ballast - to support each sleeper sideways... Note:- Always check the time of arrival of the next train from Nenagh before using the gents' at Ballybrophy!! Those new stops at Heuston are bolted through the rails - you're on your own if you hit them. I suppose that, where they are, there is very little likelihood of them being hit at any real speed - or with passengers aboard..? Edited January 13, 2013 by Broithe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 heirflick Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 here is the most expensive buffer stop you are ever likely to see.... as you can see, a lot of thought went into the design and construction!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Wow would be fun to recreate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Broithe Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Hydraulic stop, with additional, friction clamps in action.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Glenderg Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 No doubt many cups of tea were drank during it's design phase too, seamus! Here's the top of one I snapped some years ago down the north wall and the front at limerick jct. I assume both are gone to the great scrapheap in the sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 heirflick Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 No doubt many cups of tea were drank during it's design phase too, seamus! Here's the top of one I snapped some years ago down the north wall and the front at limerick jct. I assume both are gone to the great scrapheap in the sky. [ATTACH=CONFIG]5243[/ATTACH] i love those old open wagons! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Broithe Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 gone to the great scrapheap in the sky. I was very impressed that the old one on the ramp of Platform 1 at Ballybrophy survived - the track there was even disconnected during the Great Leap Forward and yet it still wasn't removed. It would be interesting to have a dendrochronological investigation of the old wooden beam - I wonder if it is original? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Broithe Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Trying to find a video of a multi-clamp buffer in action, I came across this non-relevant, but highly amusing clip... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kirley Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I have searched my railway books for pictures of buffers in Goods Yards, Loco Depots but close up and detailed pictures are like "hens teeth"! The ones I have found appeared to have been constructed from old rail and the nearest pro-typical ones I can find in the model world is the PECO ones. I would welcome suggestions if there are better ones than the PECO available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Glenderg Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Are you looking for those ones specifically or the more modern RAWIE ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Riversuir226 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Kirley pm your email address I may have one or two pics of the buffers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Broithe Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 A previous discussion - http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/1418-Irish-Bufferstops? .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kirley Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Riversuir, PM sent. Broithe, I remembered the thread you referred to, searched under 'buffers', could not find it but did remember BosKonay raised the thread. So I got lost in his layout pages for an hour without success. Thanks for retrieving it if for nothing else to prove to myself I did not imagine it! Glenderg - I would probably need the old and the more modern ones. More than pictures I would like recommendations on buffers that are available to buy and look 'Irish' though I am tempted to have a go at the concrete ones in Broithe's link.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Broithe Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Broithe, I remembered the thread you referred to, searched under 'buffers', could not find it but did remember BosKonay raised the thread. So I got lost in his layout pages for an hour without success. Thanks for retrieving it if for nothing else to prove to myself I did not imagine it! It does come up in a 'buffers' search - but so does rather a lot of other stuff... I have a few more pictures of the Ballybrophy buffers, if you need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Riversuir226 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Buffers for the former dockside line in Waterford bufferstop at Glenmore Kilkenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kirley Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Thanks Tom for the pictures, it seems PECO Rail buffers are the nearest to the last one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 I merged the buffer threads - will stick it now too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 kevrail Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Kieran found these on Ebay. Not sure if this is what you are looking for but here is the link anyway http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230947295104?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kirley Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Thanks Kevin, they look really good but I have already ordered the Peco Rail buffers so I'll make do with them. If I need any more I given them a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 kevrail Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I don't want to spoil your weekend Kieran but Hattons are selling Peco Buffers for £1 http://www.ehattons.com/7714/Peco_Products_SL_40_Rail_built_buffer_stop/StockDetail.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kirley Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I don't want to spoil your weekend Kieran but Hattons are selling Peco Buffers for £1 http://www.ehattons.com/7714/Peco_Products_SL_40_Rail_built_buffer_stop/StockDetail.aspx That's who I ordered with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 patrick Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I use the Peco bufferstops but replace the buffer beam with a new styrene one to give a more Irish appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kirley Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 [quote=patrick;38186 I use the Peco bufferstops but replace the buffer beam with a new styrene one to give a more Irish appearance. That looks the part alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 David Holman Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 They look like ABS castings. bought a 7mm scale set at Reading Trade Show yesterday. They do a range of styles. S&D, also Springside do buffers too. As prototype pics show, there are many different types and for absolute fidelity, one needs to be careful or you could end up with [heaven forbid] GWR buffers on a Highland Railway layout... Me, I've used Peco in the past, because they are very good value and easy to put together. The ABS ones are in the paint shop at the moment, but will hopefully appear on the Arigna Town turntable siding next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 David Holman Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Here is my take on an Irish buffer stop. Needed one for the other end of the turntable and eventually went for an ABS kit of whitemetal castings. Ditched the rail built beam [too short for broad gauge], in favour of a sleeper, though suspect the corners need clipping. My usual faffing around with the Grasstech and scatter material completes the scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Broithe Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Reminiscent of the old one at Ballybrophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 heirflick Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 sweet mother....that scene is fantastic! love the scrubbery around the place - is just superb=D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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