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Back on track girls

Picked these up last night

Nothing very exciting I can hear you say

But it puts a clear definition on the different coaches

The pic shows 2 x Made in Ireland box's

Both have the thinner striped coach in them

Also Jouef's penchant for not having a plastic face on their box's but instead wrapping them in clingfilm

I have placed one of the thicker striped coaches for comparison

 

As a matter of interest are there any other collectors out there or am I the only sad bastard?

PM me if you want to remain anonymous PIMP

 

 

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I am one of those sad bastards. I have a weird fetish for the jouef Irish stuff. Always wanted some, managed to get my hands on 3 of the coaches with the very thick white lines. Would love a loco to go with it, but the purse strings never seem to allow it when one pops up on ebay. One popped up recently, about 115GBP I think?

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There is a big interest in Jouef (HDI) in France

Most of the stuff I see on eBay seems to end up there

I must have a trawl through my stuff and see if there are any spare pieces floating about

I have other outline HDI stuff as well

Anything that said Made in Ireland was always picked up

 

If any spares pop up, do send me a PM:).

 

I figured that they were going to France, the winning bidders history indicated as much.

From time to time they pop up on ebay.fr.

 

Any truth to the myth that some of the stock was buried on site when it closed in Shannon? or is that just a fairy tale?

 

I've often thought a mini documentary about the jouef irish venture could be fierce interesting.

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The thing about Jouef is they manufactured their european products in Ireland alright, but the continental rolling stock they merely repainted in a sort of CIE livery never looked remotely like anything that ran on Irish rails. At least the Lima Murphy inspired class 33s and BR Mk1s looked looked half right considering it was the 1970s toy market.

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The thing about Jouef is they manufactured their european products in Ireland alright, but the continental rolling stock they merely repainted in a sort of CIE livery never looked remotely like anything that ran on Irish rails. At least the Lima Murphy inspired class 33s and BR Mk1s looked looked half right considering it was the 1970s toy market.

 

I hear all of that and I completely agree and it goes without saying that the current Murphy is outstanding, however . . .

 

What makes Jouef hdi a must have for me is:

 

1. Only model trains ever manufactured in Ireland

2. Livered in CIE colour - if crudely

3. Short lived nature of the factory

4. Scarceness of CIE models produced

5. Oddity factor - european stuff livered as CIE

 

Anyone else?

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I hear all of that and I completely agree and it goes without saying that the current Murphy is outstanding, however . . .

 

What makes Jouef hdi a must have for me is:

 

1. Only model trains ever manufactured in Ireland

2. Livered in CIE colour - if crudely

3. Short lived nature of the factory

4. Scarceness of CIE models produced

5. Oddity factor - european stuff livered as CIE

 

Anyone else?

 

I get that - comprendee

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Have to agree 100% man

Scarceness of the models is what does it for me

Also made a couple of other models and they produced Made in Ireland track!

Go back to pages 40, 41, 42 & 47 of this thread for some more pics

 

Cheers, fairly comprehensive info here about the Irish venture - I'm sure you've seen it before, an interesting read all the same.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Robertforsythe/sandbox1

 

Mentions TV ads on Irish television in the lead up to Christmas - would be great to see some of those old ads

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The club have been given a lot of the contents of Leinster Models work shop

All kinds of Hornby & Lima spare parts etc

I pulled this Spares Box out of the wreckage

About 4 hours work on it to put it into some kind of respectable appearance

Raging I did not take any pics of it beforehand

Hope to stock it with some of these unopened spare parts

Then put it in the loft and forget about it

 

 

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That snail faces the right way, but it's the wrong shape, far too big, wrong colour and unlined; the cab number is the wrong size, font and colour too! The loco should have been all grey also, not black, if in fine livery.

 

But to be fair nobody ever tried to pass off those early models as anything other than a broad "toy" representation.

 

Interesting model, though.

 

For record, snails were light green, lined in gold, and numerals were unlined pale yellow.

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That snail faces the right way, but it's the wrong shape, far too big, wrong colour and unlined; the cab number is the wrong size, font and colour too! The loco should have been all grey also, not black, if in fine livery.

 

But to be fair nobody ever tried to pass off those early models as anything other than a broad "toy" representation.

 

Interesting model, though.

 

For record, snails were light green, lined in gold, and numerals were unlined pale yellow.

 

Jaysus, JB... will you go for that pint already! :P

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This is a Lima model JB

The snail is the correct size because thats how Lima made it back in the day

The colour is correct, because thats how Lima made it back in the day

Any other sized Snail or different colour would render the model incorrect, because thats how Lima made it back in the day

 

Extract from a toy collectors bible........

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Found this page from a March 1997 copy of Model Rail Enthusiast

Pat Hammond wrote a series of articles on the various wagons produced by Hornby

This was in a series on the 60's & 70's 5 plank wagons

These were made in 1979 for the CIE Local Goods Sets

A little over 4000 were made

In the article the SLNC wagon is described as :

R120, Moulded in maroon plastic and carries the initials "SLNC" and the number 145

both tampo printed in white on the sides

The initials stood for "Sligo, Larne & Northern Counties"

So even Hornby or Pat Hammond can make mistakes!

As far as we know the wagon was not sold alone and all the sets were sold in Ireland

He then goes on about the Grey CIE wagon which was allocated the number R119

and states that both wagons were scarce

I have not found an article on the CIE Insulated wagon so far.

 

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