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A Hornby starter set even now is like a museum piece, compared to what other manufacturers are putting out.

 

Have to agree. This recent one looks like it was pulled straight from a 1960's tri-ang catalogue.

But I guess that's why hornby are in rapid decline.

 

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In fairness to Hornby, they appear to be getting their act together after a few years on the decline. If you consider the amount of tooling alone that's in their stock, and how much of it belongs to airfix, tri-ang, Lima, and their own 80's range, there's an enormous financial undertaking to bring those cheap and cheerful sets up to what's expected. The other fact is that the UK market isn't at the races at all, and is some way behind their European counterparts in what they produce.

 

This loco for instance, the French A Class (!) - look at the detail, and look at the price on the next page. https://www.reynaulds.com/news/111.aspx

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Theres a reason for that - CJM are the best of the best. Most items are handmade and commission only. This includes handmade chassis to an unbeatable standard. They are to N gauge models what Blancpain are to wristwatches....

 

Did they do a Lambo watch?

Seem to recall something about them splitting up

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. . .The other fact is that the UK market isn't at the races at all, and is some way behind their European counterparts in what they produce.

 

This loco for instance, the French A Class (!) - look at the detail, and look at the price on the next page. https://www.reynaulds.com/news/111.aspx

 

Yes superb European models. The prices aren't bad considering they include DCC sound decoder and are orders of magnitude better engineered and detail is in another league. Have a look at the bogie detail - its is staggering. 20 Years ago an Austrian pal of mine used to scoff at Bachmann and Hornby RTR, but I didn't fully understand why until I saw his layout and his models - even 20 years ago, simply on another planet for detail and engineering precision, but as you point out at a cost worthy of their quality. Less is more when it comes to quality, or as they say down our way, quality is better than quantity.

 

I stopped buying Hornby around 25 years ago and switched to Bachmann because then they were two gears up on Hornby for detail, and just as important the Bachmann running quality seemed more for modellers rather than Hornby toy choo-choos.

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In relation to the UK market - The Dapol Black label A4 looks mega.

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Did they do a Lambo watch?

Seem to recall something about them splitting up

 

They are 'the official watch partner' or similar. Still very much an item

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"This loco for instance, the French A Class (!) - look at the detail, and look at the price on the next page. https://www.reynaulds.com/news/111.aspx"

 

I'd expect my fancy to be very well tickled for $400 to be frank.

 

I've no issue with Hornby, I think they've upped their game. Giving out about their starter set quality is too reductive an argument for my liking. I think teh bigger issue is the changing tastes of young fellahs who are more into Far Cry, Call of Duty and Halo Reach than getting the goo from a 1/72 kit or 1/76 model.

 

Looking at their retooled A4s and class 33s and the price they are? No complaints.

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A trip down memory lane, how many of those contributors still post today?

 

Had a look on that thread, and all bar two I believe are still members. Some fly under different handles, while some are line side rather than layout side these days!

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Picked up a Meccano Catalogue today at Bray Wheelers

Nothing exceptional there you might say

1964 Irish Edition with Price List

Irish Distributors name printed on the catalogue as opposed to the usual John Bull stamp

Also a John Bull stamp on some pages of the catalogue for The Model Railway Shop, Monck Place.

 

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Also some bits that I never associated with Meccano

 

Bayko Building sets, called Outfits in the catalogue

Bayko was a precursor to Lego as a building toy.

 

 

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Also Play Doh, a new one on me

It says Made & Guarenteed by Meccano!

 

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Super Skates, New from America, but again made & guarenteed by Meccano

 

 

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Silver Fox have some pre production models for inspection

If you are at the Bangor show this weekend drop over and check them out

TPO & Luggage Van

I reckon they need NEM style couplings, the older Lima/Triang Style ones are long out of date

 

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Thanks for posting those Dave. As pre-production models they look very nice, especially the 3 axle HLV. Agree about NEM pockets and hope he puts hand rails by at the guards door on the HLV and the double doors on the TPO. Google produced two comparison photos. Great for the 60s/70s golden era. There is nothing on his web site yet http://silverfoxmodels.co.uk/category/irish-railways-iarnrod-eireann/

 

Any idea on pricing?

 

Silver Fox have some pre production models for inspection

If you are at the Bangor show this weekend drop over and check them out

TPO & Luggage Van

I reckon they need NEM style couplings, the older Lima/Triang Style ones are long out of date

 

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Going by his usual expensive pricing I reckon it will be in the £100 range (stg)

Another thing which I spoke about with a couple of the lads from here is that he has not captured the Irishness in the width of these models

Should be 10'3" wide but they look very British width wise

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Going by his usual expensive pricing I reckon it will be in the £100 range (stg)

 

I'd guess they may be similar prices to John's Irish GSVs which are GBP £79 (€95).

 

Another thing which I spoke about with a couple of the lads from here is that he has not captured the Irishness in the width of these models. Should be 10'3" wide but they look very British width wise.

 

Have you seen them close up Dave? Difficult to tell the width from the camera angle in those photos. The deep tumblehome of the prototype HLV was a very distinct characteristic.

 

The paint job looks nice and crisp, but I hope the large hand rail is fitted, and not painted on the production models as per the photo above. Also the glazing needs to be pushed tight against the windows and not have the air gaps seen in the photos.

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This is the donor wagon. No idea what the dimensions are.

 

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The heating/luggage vans were 30' long, so thats 120mm long in 00.

 

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Difficult to tell the width from the camera angle in those photos. The deep tumblehome of the prototype HLV was a very distinct characteristic.

Now hopefully we don't get the usual plethora of unhelpful comments regarding IFM models but I think Wrenns comments are fair and I'm inclined to agree (with you both, I think) that the 6-wheel HLV doesn't capture that distinctive styling of the prototype. This is one of my favorite vans from that period and this model fails to capture my heart. The TPO isn't bad and since there are no rtr alternatives to choose from,... well, enough said. Still happy to see more prototypical builds from the talented scratch builders on here. Put em up, lads

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I will be bringing both of these vans to Bangor for inspection

Feel free to drop by and give me your thoughts

They are pre production models so hopefully John will take your ideas on board, similar to our own ( See what I did there, Eoin.......)

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Dave,

 

You might politely suggest to Silverfox that there are two shades of orange, RAL 2011 and tan as perfected by Phoenix Precision Paint, rather than the in between shade that they seem to use for both liveries. I'm trying to be as sensitive as possible here.

 

R.

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