WRENNEIRE Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Just talking to some lads in the MRSI about what colours they would like to see on the new 071's We assume there will be 10 different locos issued. Supertrain, with 2 running numbers Class leader 071 to be one IR with 2 numbers IE with 2 numbers Freight with 2 numbers We all agreed on those ones NIR, some said only one others wanted 2 There was also a Supertrain with a smaller broken wheel decal which was mentioned What do you guys reckon would be the best Answers on a postcard to........................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I would like to see all 3 NIR 111's but at least one in the original livery with the orange warning panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 My short list would be - Supertrain - IE - Freight - NIR Ah hell, why make a list, I'll take all and anything Paddy makes! For running, I'll be hopefully buying a small freight fleet, and a few in IE orange as thunderbirds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 IR, NIR and IE will be my focus, with a Freight one and a Supertrains one for completeness. I don't know who I'm trying to kid, I'm going to end up with as many as I can afford! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthyman Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 IR, NIR and IE will be my focus, with a Freight one and a Supertrains one for completeness. I don't know who I'm trying to kid, I'm going to end up with as many as I can afford! I think IR livery will be my fav,and like you said I will have to see how many I can afford to. The first delivery in October will be NIR,Freight,Super Train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I think IR livery will be my fav,and like you said I will have to see how many I can afford to.The first delivery in October will be NIR,Freight,Super Train. Excellent, I will have 112 for starters. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarabuses Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) I wonder if Paddy will offer weathered variants as with the 141/181s? Edited April 19, 2012 by Tarabuses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I wonder if Paddy will offer weathered varients as with the 141/181s? I will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 supertrain livery is the one for me....theres somthing about that broken wheel logo on the cab front that does it for me! but as money allows i will prob get the hole nine yards!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 I dont think he should bother with the weathering Of all the 141/181's that were available the weathered ones sold worst Still have 4 of 177, 3 of 183 and a couple of 190 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201bhoy Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 But if he does it in very limited numbers they should sell ok... Personally I don't know how people would want a brand-new loco like that when they could get them weathered for not nearly as much as it would cost to get them weathered separately. Without weathering I think they look really plasticy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 The hobby also has collectors who buy their locos in mint condition and like to keep them that way Weathering is a bit of a no no with them, (he says from experience) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Hit them all with the biggest weathering stick you can find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 But if he does it in very limited numbers they should sell ok... Personally I don't know how people would want a brand-new loco like that when they could get them weathered for not nearly as much as it would cost to get them weathered separately. Without weathering I think they look really plasticy... I'd much rather a proper professional weathering job with subtle details rather than the generic spray factory weathered models get, but each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I'd much rather a proper professional weathering job with subtle details rather than the generic spray factory weathered models get, but each to their own. Exactly Fran at least the lads that we know who provide a weathering service will weather from a customers photographs, so in essence they are weathering what they see instead of a few passes of an airbrush over the bogies. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201bhoy Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I'd much rather a proper professional weathering job with subtle details rather than the generic spray factory weathered models get, but each to their own. I suppose you do have a point there fran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Weathering is an art on its own and a few passes in the factory with an airbrush is not what I call weathering. I also thing it's not worth the extra over the price of a clean model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I have two of the weathered Baby GMs in IR livery. I'm just waiting for a chance to remove it and add my own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djkonore Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Weathered for me by Anthony. I think the picture speaks for itself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarabuses Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Do we know Conor or Jess? Nice work on the loco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201bhoy Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 He's Conor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthyman Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Weathered for me by Anthony. I think the picture speaks for itself... [ATTACH=CONFIG]191[/ATTACH] Lovely job and very same as my 156 and 143 which Anthony Done as well.The factory paint job really annoyed me on the IR 141s as the orange was far too bright.I will post up a few photos when I get a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djkonore Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Do we know Conor or Jess? Nice work on the loco. This was my weak attempt at getting my girlfriend to be more accepting of my model train addiction. She thought it was romantic until I started spending more time with it than with her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Tell her it's like dolls' houses, but a bit smaller and some of it moves. It'll make sense to her then, I'm sure *.. * Actually, I'm not, but try it, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Just talking to some lads in the MRSI about what colours they would like to see on the new 071'sWe assume there will be 10 different locos issued. Supertrain, with 2 running numbers Class leader 071 to be one IR with 2 numbers IE with 2 numbers Freight with 2 numbers We all agreed on those ones NIR, some said only one others wanted 2 There was also a Supertrain with a smaller broken wheel decal which was mentioned What do you guys reckon would be the best Answers on a postcard to........................ Bear in mind, folks, there were several variations of NIR livery; initial much lighter blue and current shade; two different sizes of yellow panel, also a day-glo orange rectangle, and two different sizes and styles of NIR logo on the sides! And south of the border there was also the original livery as they were all painted in USA before delivery with a non-standard darker than normal "orange", and logos on each end which (a) were slightly larger than normal, and (b) had gthe white "CIE" lettering surrounded by a white broken wheel instead of the standard tan one. Hope that's of help to someone, rather than a source of confusion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Paddy was telling a great story yesterday. When he was in York road looking at the 111's he was getting a sample of paint for the forthcoming model when he asked for the NIR blue the reply he got from the member of staff in the paint shop was. What shade are you after as there are no two the same its just what ever shade comes out of the tin after we mix it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Paddy was telling a great story yesterday. When he was in York road looking at the 111's he was getting a sample of paint for the forthcoming model when he asked for the NIR blue the reply he got from the member of staff in the paint shop was. What shade are you after as there are no two the same its just what ever shade comes out of the tin after we mix it That tale was also often told of Dundalk Works! However, evidence on the ground indicates that neither of NIR's two blue colours, nor GNR blue, was anything like as unreliably consistent as such a policy would probably result in... As well as that, the infrequent repaints of these locos and the small numbers of them makes any livery change almost a unique one! (e.g. (8)113). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarabuses Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Mystery solved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Paddy was telling a great story yesterday. When he was in York road looking at the 111's he was getting a sample of paint for the forthcoming model when he asked for the NIR blue the reply he got from the member of staff in the paint shop was. What shade are you after as there are no two the same its just what ever shade comes out of the tin after we mix it I was in Inchicore in 2002 and 5603 was in ex works condition after being overhauled. There was a composite there as well in ex works and the shades of orange were considerably different on both vehicles. When asked about it the IE employee said it all comes down to who mixes the paint, and that a little bit to much or less thinners can dictate the final shade of the color. They were also using a new type of paint that would make it easy to remove graffiti if a vehicle got vandalized. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railtec-transfers Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 It also depends on the light in which the paint is mixed. Paint mixed in bright daylight will inevitably be slightly different to paint mixed under artificial lighting, then you get variances between folks on the day shift and those on the night shift... It's a mine-field but at least it gives modellers some artistic license! I recall there was recently a photo in Model Rail of 2 Gresleys (I think) which were outshopped from the same works within a few days of each other - noticeably different shades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connollystn Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I'm really a big fan of the current Silver and Black livery. It's most likely that they will sell the quickest, however, there will be a big demand for the the Supertrain livery version if it is numbered 071. I bought 6 of the weathered 141/181s in the IR/IÉ liveries but, I wouldn't advise Paddy to release any weathered versions of the 071s, especially, after seeing the fantastic job some of you guys can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthyman Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I'm really a big fan of the current Silver and Black livery. It's most likely that they will sell the quickest, however, there will be a big demand for the the Supertrain livery version if it is numbered 071. I bought 6 of the weathered 141/181s in the IR/IÉ liveries but, I wouldn't advise Paddy to release any weathered versions of the 071s, especially, after seeing the fantastic job some of you guys can do. I would have thought the IR and IE liveries would Be the most popular,I know they are the main ones I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connollystn Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I had a look at the pre-production class071 in Mark's Models. At this stage it doesn't matter to me what livery it has, I just want to get my hands on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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