DiveController Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Does anybody know the history of the IE small logo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jhb171achill Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 The "three pin plug" logo..... what aspect of its history are you interested in? It was IE's second logo, after the "set of points" logo introduced in 1987. It was current until the last 071 was repainted black and silver a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DiveController Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 So the large three pin us a recent thing. Think the black and silver repaint didn't happen until about 2007. So all remaining 141s had the small logo too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tonybonneyba Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 So the large three pin us a recent thing. Think the black and silver repaint didn't happen until about 2007. So all remaining 141s had the small logo too? I think they all had the big logo, but I don't know when they where applied... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 aclass007 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 So the large three pin us a recent thing. Think the black and silver repaint didn't happen until about 2007. So all remaining 141s had the small logo too? No.... the large logo was the standard logo. The small logo, as featured on 078 was unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Railer Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Only 3 071s had the small IE logo as far as I know and was replaced with the big IE logo. 076,078 and 086 have all been recorded with the small logo. No 141/181s got it, the big version was standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Killucan2 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Some 141s and 187 had the small logo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tonybonneyba Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Just thinking out load (-I know thinking is not good for you ).... Maybe Irish Rail Iarnód Éireann ran out of the big logo decals / stickers so they applied the small front logo on the sides so that the locos looked smart until some big logos got made, maybe that happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jhb171achill Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I think it was just a marketing image decision to make them bigger. Certainly, several 141s got the small one, but I'm nearly sure that no 121s did. I am not certain when it was first applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DiveController Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Wow! Was expecting "can't believe he doesn't know this..." and a one-liner. Likely experimental followed by greater visibility of corporate logo but does anyone really know...? Someone on here gave a remarkable account of liveries over the years. I think we made the thread a 'Sticky'. Anyone recall these minutiae? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DiveController Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Maybe jhb171achill knows any more about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 heirflick Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Maybe jhb171achill knows any more about this? we all know - but its classified. .we could tell you - but then we'd have to kill you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jhb171achill Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 In the process of a house move, DiveController, I find that some of the more detailed minutae I have records of remain in storage, but I am afraid I'm nearly certain they don't include exact dates for the above! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DiveController Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) What I did not realize when I posted this first (but do now since I have a newly acquired model of 078), is that MM0078 also has the old style marker light in addition to the small logo. MM0077 and MM0085 both have the newer LED marker lights (apparently installed in the 2000s) and large logo. I guess this is in keeping the small logo being applied to the prototype at some early time point followed by a move the definitive larger logo. EDIT: Finally managed to make it through a lot of the thread on the 071 model (which precedes my membership on the fora) and some additional information regarding the small logo here with a picture of 078 with the small logo (but the newer LED lights)http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/6-Murphy-Models-071-New-detailed-pre-production-photos-added!/page74 Could somebody remind me which years the CIE roundel, IR and IE logos were introduced in general please? Thanks in advance Edited May 25, 2015 by DiveController 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DiveController Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 Could somebody remind me which years the CIE roundel, IR and IE logos were introduced in general please?Thanks in advance To answer my own question here, 1964- Flying Snail emblem replaced within 'Broken Wheel' logo. 1987- Logo change from CIE to 'IR' (Irish Rail) 1994- Logo change from IR to IE (Iarnrod Eireann) THis and more cover nicely in Kieran's thread here http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/4699-CIE-to-IE-Timeline?highlight=cie+timeline 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DiveController Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) I think it was just a marketing image decision to make them bigger. Certainly, several 141s got the small one, but I'm nearly sure that no 121s did. I am not certain when it was first applied. Well, you're not wrong, JB, (again). I was looking through YouTube and came across two 141s in the same clip both with small IE logos, contained completely with in the black side section (which reminded me of this thread and your comment). 187 and 153 at 3:44 & 23:05 Edited March 20, 2016 by DiveController 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DiveController Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 Looks like 160 also had a small IE logo in 2000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 murphaph Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 7/9/2014 at 3:46 PM, Railer said: Only 3 071s had the small IE logo as far as I know and was replaced with the big IE logo. 076,078 and 086 have all been recorded with the small logo. No 141/181s got it, the big version was standard. Has anyone got any photographic evidence for 076 & 086 having the small logo on the side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Niles Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, murphaph said: Has anyone got any photographic evidence for 076 & 086 having the small logo on the side? not my snap but should suffice for 086 (Jim Ramsay on Flickr). I'm pretty certain I've seen photos of it in this guise in older Irish Mails (ITG journal). And 076 by 'Leighton Logs' Edited October 20, 2022 by Niles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Niles Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 As an aside, anyone up for replicating that 90s fashion on their 4mm scale passengers? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 murphaph Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Awesome Niles, thanks so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 connollystn Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 In my opinion I feel that the IE 'three pin socket' logo was originally designed to sit neatly between the white stripes, however, it looked very small and most certainly didn't have the impact that the IR logo had. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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