DiveController Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) at least the filler cap is a nice shade of grey almost '"dazzle ships".... he-he Edited February 26, 2015 by DiveController Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I think that's a wee bit disingenuous... it's a 'love it or hate it' livery alright, but a lot of enthusiasts are in the 'love it' camp. Personally, I think it looks good. Different strokes, I guess. I think it is certainly an opportunity to model and something new and may be 'liked' for that reason alone. It may well look better with it's one rake, to be fair, but a little like the Mersey ferry with the IWT. It will probably grow on me (like mould) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WT CLASS 2-6-4T No. 4 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Its much better than the orange with yellow and black. I like it so I'm in the supporters camp. As for Noel's suggestion of independent operators for competition, the rail network is too small to have several operators. The only thing that competition has done in Ireland is to cause an increase in prices to the consumer and lower wages for the workers. Before competition in the electricity sector Ireland was the third cheapest for electricity in Europe with only the ESB, since the other operators started up we are now one of the most expensive, because of economy of scale, duplication of administration and shareholders need for profit. The break up of CIE resulted in four boards for three companies where only one board existed before, and duplication of a lot of the administration jobs with no improvement in services for passengers as a result of the change. Walter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Totally correct, WTCLASS. Privatisation across the water has resulted in more public money being thrown at what was BR, with less quality of service, at higher prices to the public. That's mathematical fact. So who benefits? Shareholders and bonus-led layers and layers of duplicated management; again, mathematical fact. Knowing the "nose-in-trough" and short sighted, ill-informed and selfish attitude of almost all politicians on this island, should we open a book on how long it will take them to catch on to ways of further wrecking our railway system? BR had no bonuses and shareholders, and one board. That's mathematical fact too. As our good friends in the States might say, "Go Figure!"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybonneyba Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Well, we wondered how long it would be before it would be turned 'the wrong way round'. I think it looks as ridiculous as the new number. Think this was always going to be a love it (those paid for 'designing' it) or hate it livery (the rest of us,…for the most part) I may not have designed it, but i love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybonneyba Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Gotta love these nonsense liveries. "Lets add black strip along the middle" "And a bit of wibbly wobbly wonder thats not in either green, gold, blue or red" Have CIE ever heard of photoshop and that people might be able to mock up this crap in minature and virtual before you commit an entire paint shop in inchicore? Hey CIE, YOU NEED SOME HELP? Yeah, orange as a base colour for years seems like a decent political gesture? I never really liked the O/B colour scheme, but they did actually photoshop it as i was told. Also, Photoshop is a really complicated bit of software that takes a while to get used two, trying Photoshop a loco from one livery with many different shades to a whole new livery is hard to do, i've done before & it ain't easy. Just saying, no offence intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railer Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Looks like 206 has suffered a big failure on it's first passenger working since it's overhaul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Not sure how often these things fail, or whether it's something small despite the very smoky 'core breach'. Maybe time on the mechanics better spent than on that livery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railer Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I believe it turned out to be a fire on one of the traction motors so it should not be a big problem like what happened to 230. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I believe it turned out to be a fire on one of the traction motors so it should not be a big problem like what happened to 230. I meant to ask this before but what actually happened to 230? I think I heard it was a fire also but not sure of the details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricanemk1c Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Head End Power generator caught fire in the engine room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Looks like 206 has suffered a big failure on it's first passenger working since it's overhaul. Unfortunate and embarrassing, especially so if the first run after an overhaul!!! These locos must have top class safety systems for fire detection and auto suppression, shorts, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricanemk1c Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Nowhere near first run - been out and about since mid February, but has been restricted to freight and test runs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishthump Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Head End Power generator caught fire in the engine room I thought the 201's didn't have an auxiliary generator for HEP.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricanemk1c Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I thought the 201's didn't have an auxiliary generator for HEP.... Correct - but the HEP generator was driven directly off the engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Head End Power generator caught fire in the engine room So, R. Bandon is out of action not being overhauled. Guess there would be little point with many of the 201s stored right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railer Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I believe 230 is being used for spares. It suffered considerable damage during the fire. Firefighters had to cut holes in it to put the fire out and the fire burned through it's brake lines. 206 was badly damaged by HEP induced fire in 2005 and was almost a write off but it was repaired and back in service during the summer of 2006. With 230 gone from the Enterprise fleet there is still 206-209, 227,228,231 and 233. They can always add TPWS to an active 201 to replace 230 if needs be. They could probably used 230 as parts to finish cancelled repairs to 225 and use it to replace 230. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I believe 230 is being used for spares. It suffered considerable damage during the fire. Firefighters had to cut holes in it to put the fire out and the fire burned through it's brake lines. 206 was badly damaged by HEP induced fire in 2005 and was almost a write off but it was repaired and back in service during the summer of 2006. With 230 gone from the Enterprise fleet there is still 206-209, 227,228,231 and 233. They can always add TPWS to an active 201 to replace 230 if needs be. They could probably used 230 as parts to finish cancelled repairs to 225 and use it to replace 230. Shame, there are not many in use form the original 34 or so are there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riversuir226 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) 201's in use normally 206,207,208,209,215,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,226,227,228,229,231,232,233,234. 216/225 for belmond 230,201,202,203,204,205,210,211,212,213,214 in store or used for parts(230 is sadly crocked) Edited May 11, 2015 by Riversuir226 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railer Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Is 225 confirmed for Belmond or just hear say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc0169 Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Is 225 confirmed for Belmond or just hear say? There was only money allocated to overhaul and refurbish loco 216 as it wasn't feasible to overhaul any other 201 for Belmond at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 225 is little more than a rolling shell now on accommodation bogies, most useable parts including the fuel tank removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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