Garfield Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 "Irish Rail has an 'absolute requirement' to warn its customers to mind gaps between trains and platforms when getting on and off trains, a Circuit Civil Court has said..." http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/irish-rail-has-must-warn-customers-to-mind-the-gap-court-says-35166170.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Blarney Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 What has happened to - Common Sense - Self Preservation - Personal Observation - Awareness of your surroundings - Self Awareness - looking after, and caring for ones-self? It would appear we are no longer responsible for our own actions and our own stupidity. This person was responsible for his actions. He alighting at the wrong Station. Had he not done so, this incident would not have occurred! He and only he is responsible for his action and self-inflicted injury. The Law is more of an Ass nowadays. This individual should have been prosecuted for Trespass upon Railway Property. I can see it coming - Glass screens with protective doors. Doors that open and close in parallel with a trains door once the train has come to a complete standstill. Oh, and a retractable ramp from platform to the door of the train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The blame culture, find someone...anyone to blame for one's own actions. It's the new thing now, like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 What has happened to - Common Sense - Self Preservation - Personal Observation - Awareness of your surroundings - Self Awareness - looking after, and caring for ones-self? It would appear we are no longer responsible for our own actions and our own stupidity. This person was responsible for his actions. He alighting at the wrong Station. Had he not done so, this incident would not have occurred! He and only he is responsible for his action and self-inflicted injury. The Law is more of an Ass nowadays. This individual should have been prosecuted for Trespass upon Railway Property. I can see it coming - Glass screens with protective doors. Doors that open and close in parallel with a trains door once the train has come to a complete standstill. Oh, and a retractable ramp from platform to the door of the train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 [ATTACH=CONFIG]25636[/ATTACH] Also used on the Paris Metro, but only on automated lines... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craven1508 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 mmmmm ...dont give irsh rail anymore bad idea,s! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 mmmmm ...dont give irsh rail anymore bad idea,s! Probably safe(?) for a bit. You can only really do it where you're confident that the door spacings of anything that stops there will be identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 It will be no different in the UK and the rest of Europe. It has all to do with taking a risk based approach to the way the business is run. I agree with all the comments made, but the law is the law. Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave182 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 'Mind the doors' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 To be fair, I've never felt safe on a London Underground platform, surrounded by objectionable people and with an unguarded drop to an exposed live rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craven1508 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 stand clear of the doors please!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Blarney Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Irish Rail's new Station and Train Announcement! - "Mind the Doors and Band Together when Alighting and Boarding this Train please." "Mind the Gap" - Were Irish Rail to make this announcement, might they then be taken to Court by a well known Retailer? Business is fraught with difficulties is it not? Edited October 27, 2016 by Old Blarney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricanemk1c Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 ICR's have always warned of the gap. At least the person involved was found partially liable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I hate this sort of nanny nonsense but that being said, I boarded a 22k class with my young daughter at Cork Kent during the week and noticed that gap was quite wide, so there is certainly some risk for children, seniors and in situations where crowding occurs. It's probably not possible to warn passengers that are boarding but yes an automated warring could be issued for alighting passengers. On the day , I wondered why such modern rolling stock could not be fitted with step/ramp that opens to meet any platform. If a robotic milker can find a teat on a cow, surely a a step could find a platform! It's not that hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewanderer Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I hope IE appeal the judgement. Madness. Man gets on a train in a hurry and falls over. Negligence on his part I would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 I hope IE appeal the judgement. Madness. Man gets on a train in a hurry and falls over. Negligence on his part I would say. Couldn't manage what practically everyone else has managed to do since the 1830s... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricanemk1c Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I hope IE appeal the judgement. Madness. Man gets on a train in a hurry and falls over. Negligence on his part I would say. Actually worse than that - he had already negotiated the gap having got off intially! And he judge found him 50% liable as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOGUL Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Since he got into the train, off it again and only fell getting back on, so his third time through the doors, he only fell 1/3 of the time.. So surely IE should only be 33 percent liable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Since he got into the train, off it again and only fell getting back on, so his third time through the doors, he only fell 1/3 of the time.. So surely IE should only be 33 percent liable! Good point and that's assuming he had not boarded a train before! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jhb171achill Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 What sort of inane rubbish is going to be thrown at us next? "Due to movement of the train, all customers are requested to leave the train before departure". When will some supreme court decide enough is enough!! "Customers are advised that some train stations may contain platforms. Please stay clear of all platforms in case you fall off" "Customers are requested not to eat their tickets, as they may contain traces of nuts" - i.e. the half-wits who make careers out of finding ways to (a) be stupid, (b) invent ever more ridiculous rules, purporting to be the all-encompassing dictatorial H & S stuff, and © be offended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 What sort of inane rubbish is going to be thrown at us next? "Due to movement of the train, all customers are requested to leave the train before departure". When will some supreme court decide enough is enough!! "Customers are advised that some train stations may contain platforms. Please stay clear of all platforms in case you fall off" "Customers are requested not to eat their tickets, as they may contain traces of nuts" - i.e. the half-wits who make careers out of finding ways to (a) be stupid, (b) invent ever more ridiculous rules, purporting to be the all-encompassing dictatorial H & S stuff, and © be offended. I think this chap may have suffered on the rails... [video=youtube;d4n-amRJeyw] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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