Glenderg Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Will post more general photos from the show in the Dun Laoghire topic. Richie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Great pics Richie and thanks for sharing them. Forgetting the liveries and the different eras modelled the main look of the loco is exceptional and that's the most important thing. The hours of hard work and R&D look to have paid off and PM deserves every compliment and thank you he gets. He's an amazing and dedicated man for his age. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Got a bit of video of 071 in action at the show today. Great videos Eamonn and thanks for sharing. RTE are looking for a good camera man and you would be the right man for the job . Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Great photos and video, well done lads. I'm going to have to get freight and passenger versions coz I can't choose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 great to see them today...all beauts! -and the nir livery is growing on me like a bad rash!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Sure you'd have to have the NIR livery - if only to add a splash of colour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthyman Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Glad ye liked the video clip.PM said he is suprised at the interest in 112 and expects sales to be good of her.The blue really brings out the detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Maybe 3 then, the blue is nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Unfortunate there will only be 1 NIR blue model, but not surprising given the slow sales of the Lima blue 201's, paintshop time methinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barl Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Thanks for posting pics, they really are stunning looking models and fair play to Paddy Murphy for all his hard work, a gent to talk to as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Unfortunate there will only be 1 NIR blue model, but not surprising given the slow sales of the Lima blue 201's, paintshop time methinks Maybe if 112 flies off the shelf, we might see some of her sisters in later runs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railer Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Maybe 111 in the pale sky blue with the narrow NIR font and orange panels:cool:. Can't wait for 082 and 112 now, they look great and weathering all round is a must but 112 is always fairly clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Maybe if 112 flies off the shelf, we might see some of her sisters in later runs I think given the amount of 201's still on the shelves, this wont happen sadly. The 141's came along when we all had that little bit more money, not the case now sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railer Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I think given the amount of 201's still on the shelves, this wont happen sadly. The 141's came along when we all had that little bit more money, not the case now sadly True but if 209 and 230 were released tomorrow I'd get both. I have been looking for 201 for 8 months now and I can't find it anywhere or for second hand. I am also on the look out for 146, 156 and 184 but I can't find them anywhere so while some stuff is not moving there are other models that are almost impossible to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 but 112 is always fairly clean. Maybe now, but not when IE had it on loan,it was filthy, mostly as it was worked very hard on everything from expresses to beet trains True but if 209 and 230 were released tomorrow I'd get both. I have been looking for 201 for 8 months now and I can't find it anywhere or for second hand. I am also on the look out for 146, 156 and 184 but I can't find them anywhere so while some stuff is not moving there are other models that are almost impossible to get. The bigger picture is important though, you might want 209 and 230, but there has to be demand for 209, ie you and I might want it, but who else does. Personally Id love to see either 207 or 233 done, same way Id love any of the 111's in their earlier guises, but its been proven that the demand is just not going to be there for them, same way the blue 201's never sold in massive numbers. Im based in the South, but I enjoy modelling NIR stock, but no doubt its the whole 'grass is greener' scenario, so unlikely the demand would be there for any shade of NIR blue, apart from the one that spent a well photographed time running on IE metals and gained LED markerlights, although Id almost confidently say that all 3 111's have been to almost every corner of the Irish network Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMSNCC Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 The bigger picture is important though, you might want 209 and 230, but there has to be demand for 209, ie you and I might want it, but who else does. Personally Id love to see either 207 or 233 done, same way Id love any of the 111's in their earlier guises, but its been proven that the demand is just not going to be there for them, same way the blue 201's never sold in massive numbers. Im based in the South, but I enjoy modelling NIR stock, but no doubt its the whole 'grass is greener' scenario, so unlikely the demand would be there for any shade of NIR blue, apart from the one that spent a well photographed time running on IE metals and gained LED markerlights, although Id almost confidently say that all 3 111's have been to almost every corner of the Irish network I dont think you can judge anything by the sales of the Lima NIR 201s. After all they were the wrong shade of blue plus 208 and 209 were both produced. With 209 being the only NIR blue version being produced this time around it should fair a little better plus a lot of people will probably by 2 so to convert the other to 208. I certainly will be! Hopefully another 111 will get produced preferably 111 itself in the same period livery as 112 is modelled as that way it would be easy to convert it to 112 pre LED markerlights, 113 without large yellow warning panel and the current liveries of 8111 and 8113 with large yellow warning panels. Anyway back to the 071s. They look amazing. Really looking forward to getting hold of 071 and 082 in frieght livery and 112. Hopefully the couple of small errors such as IE logo being too big or else its the black band not being big enough on the side of the IE version along with what some people on here have pointed out will be sorted by the time it hits the shops. Wonder will 082 get its own sound decoder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I dont think you can judge anything by the sales of the Lima NIR 201s. After all they were the wrong shade of blue plus 208 and 209 were both produced. With 209 being the only NIR blue version being produced this time around it should fair a little better plus a lot of people will probably by 2 so to convert the other to 208. I certainly will be! Hopefully another 111 will get produced preferably 111 itself in the same period livery as 112 is modelled as that way it would be easy to convert it to 112 pre LED markerlights, 113 without large yellow warning panel and the current liveries of 8111 and 8113 with large yellow warning panels. Anyway back to the 071s. They look amazing. Really looking forward to getting hold of 071 and 082 in frieght livery and 112. Hopefully the couple of small errors such as IE logo being too big or else its the black band not being big enough on the side of the IE version along with what some people on here have pointed out will be sorted by the time it hits the shops. Wonder will 082 get its own sound decoder? Interesting points about 208 and 209, but another factor is the relatively short time they ran in NIR livery before they were repainted into Enterprise, limiting their scope. Always thought they looked good in blue though. There is also the relative lack of rolling stock for them to run with without having to resort to finding the Lima NIR Mark IIs or repainting. The 111s on the other hand have been around much longer in NIR livery (of various guises) so maybe there will be scope for these being released later on. I would like one in late 80s/early-mid 90s guise to run alongside IR stock. Just need to get some coaches to go with it! No original Enterprise 201 is the puzzler for me, been around a long time, seen all over the country on all sorts of stock. Would pick one of them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Certainly a stable of all three NIR 071's with the 201s would provoke a swing in the blue direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Herbie Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I'm liking your thinking Bosko! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Certainly a stable of all three NIR 071's with the 201s would provoke a swing in the blue direction Quite possibly, the MIR 80 kits built up could go with them too. Maybe PM could commission some Bachmann Mark IIs ala the IR/IE ones too. I wouldn't be an expert in NIR rolling stock though, would they be similar to the BR Mark IIs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Add in the C class, a few hunslets and a repainted 170 as a c3k and you could go over totally to the north side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarabuses Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Interesting points about 208 and 209, but another factor is the relatively short time they ran in NIR livery before they were repainted into Enterprise, limiting their scope. Always thought they looked good in blue though. There is also the relative lack of rolling stock for them to run with without having to resort to finding the Lima NIR Mark IIs or repainting. The 111s on the other hand have been around much longer in NIR livery (of various guises) so maybe there will be scope for these being released later on. I would like one in late 80s/early-mid 90s guise to run alongside IR stock. Just need to get some coaches to go with it! No original Enterprise 201 is the puzzler for me, been around a long time, seen all over the country on all sorts of stock. Would pick one of them up. Yes, the original Enterprise livery on a 201 is a model that I have on my wish list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Interesting points about 208 and 209, but another factor is the relatively short time they ran in NIR livery before they were repainted into Enterprise, limiting their scope. Always thought they looked good in blue though. There is also the relative lack of rolling stock for them to run with without having to resort to finding the Lima NIR Mark IIs or repainting. The 111s on the other hand have been around much longer in NIR livery (of various guises) so maybe there will be scope for these being released later on. I would like one in late 80s/early-mid 90s guise to run alongside IR stock. Just need to get some coaches to go with it! No original Enterprise 201 is the puzzler for me, been around a long time, seen all over the country on all sorts of stock. Would pick one of them up. Fran a lot of people are prepared and are happy enough to run stock on their layout from different eras and geographical location. Some people are more concerned about prototype fidelity and running the correct stock in the right era. The model of 8208 is still available in many shops. I don't think 209 would sell as well as the other variants even though it would be a beautiful model, and it could encourage more people to model NIR stock. The old Enterprise livery was one I was really looking forward to as it is one of the most eye catching liveries to ever grace the class. To be honest I would (given the choice) rather see a 121 produced at the sake of any more 201's, but you never know. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthyman Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Fran a lot of people are prepared and are happy enough to run stock on their layout from different eras and geographical location. Some people are more concerned about prototype fidelity and running the correct stock in the right era. The model of 8208 is still available in many shops. I don't think 209 would sell as well as the other variants even though it would be a beautiful model, and it could encourage more people to model NIR stock. The old Enterprise livery was one I was really looking forward to as it is one of the most eye catching liveries to ever grace the class. To be honest I would (given the choice) rather see a 121 produced at the sake of any more 201's, but you never know. Rich, I would agree with you Rich on the 121s,as I would want the 121s closer to production than more 201s to be done.Paddy did say that the 121s are about one or two years away and he said that his own sound chip is on the cards as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I would agree with you Rich on the 121s,as I would want the 121s closer toproduction than more 201s to be done.Paddy did say that the 121s are about one or two years away and he said that his own sound chip is on the cards as well. That's really positive news Eamonn on the 121's and sound chip. I'd love a 141 or 181 and 121 double heading a freight train or two 121's. There are lot's of livery and detail differences on the prototypes. 124 and 134 in the later IE livery with the center windows filled in would be nice. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Fran a lot of people are prepared and are happy enough to run stock on their layout from different eras and geographical location. Some people are more concerned about prototype fidelity and running the correct stock in the right era. The model of 8208 is still available in many shops. I don't think 209 would sell as well as the other variants even though it would be a beautiful model, and it could encourage more people to model NIR stock. The old Enterprise livery was one I was really looking forward to as it is one of the most eye catching liveries to ever grace the class. To be honest I would (given the choice) rather see a 121 produced at the sake of any more 201's, but you never know. Rich, I agree Rich, but the livery is probably not as well known as the others and fewer people may have seen it in real life, resulting in fewer fond mermories. I tend to be interested in what I remember or have nostalgia for in Ireland and the UK, rather than present day (except when it comes to American stuff, that comes down with the models being so impressive.) I wouldn't be surprised if others think along similar lines too. Just a thought. I have no real memories of seeing 201s in NIR blue, so probably wouldn't get one. I do however, remember seeing NIR 111s in Connolly and travelling behind 112 when on loan to IE, so they'd be on my list. I would plump for a 121 over them too, especially an IR one to run on push-pulls and 124 and 134 in IE doubling up on cement bubbles, once again going off my nostalgic memories! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I agree Rich, but the livery is probably not as well known as the others and fewer people may have seen it in real life, resulting in fewer fond mermories. I tend to be interested in what I remember or have nostalgia for in Ireland and the UK, rather than present day (except when it comes to American stuff, that comes down with the models being so impressive.) I wouldn't be surprised if others think along similar lines too. Just a thought. I have no real memories of seeing 201s in NIR blue, so probably wouldn't get one. I do however, remember seeing NIR 111s in Connolly and travelling behind 112 when on loan to IE, so they'd be on my list. I would plump for a 121 over them too, especially an IR one to run on push-pulls and 124 and 134 in IE doubling up on cement bubbles, once again going off my nostalgic memories! That all sounds good to me Fran. Nostalgia and recreating the real world in miniature is the core of the hobby. The American modelling side of the hobby is very diverse and extremely interesting when you gain an interest for it. Some of the steam outline models are amazing pieces of engineering. I've definitely been spending a lot of time on youtube lately checking out the trans Atlantic prototype and modelling uploads. Then there's that connection with our own locos being built in the USA and Canada by GM. I think most Irish modellers of a certain age have a soft spot for the 121's. They just look so unique and they cover a huge geographical and period of the railways that they are a must from the sixties onwards. Mind you a lot of the drivers that I know or knew weren't as ecstatically keen on the prototypes as I was. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 That all sounds good to me Fran. Nostalgia and recreating the real world in miniature is the core of the hobby. The American modelling side of the hobby is very diverse and extremely interesting when you gain an interest for it. Some of the steam outline models are amazing pieces of engineering. I've definitely been spending a lot of time on youtube lately checking out the trans Atlantic prototype and modelling uploads. Then there's that connection with our own locos being built in the USA and Canada by GM. I think most Irish modellers of a certain age have a soft spot for the 121's. They just look so unique and they cover a huge geographical and period of the railways that they are a must from the sixties onwards. Mind you a lot of the drivers that I know or knew weren't as ecstatically keen on the prototypes as I was. Rich, Yep it's amazing that despite looking quite different in many ways how much American locos have in common with our own GMs, even externally as you're finding out on your 201 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Yep it's amazing that despite looking quite different in many ways how much American locos have in common with our own GMs, even externally as you're finding out on your 201 That's true Fran regarding the air dryer filters. I wouldn't mind a closer look at the Cannon & Co GM fuel tank details to see if there is anything on it that could be used on a MM 201. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 That's true Fran regarding the air dryer filters. I wouldn't mind a closer look at the Cannon & Co GM fuel tank details to see if there is anything on it that could be used on a MM 201. Rich, Have a kit at home that I'm going to use on a GP40, will send you some pics later on or tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Have a kit at home that I'm going to use on a GP40, will send you some pics later on or tomorrow. Cheers Fran I look forward to it. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthyman Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 That's true Fran regarding the air dryer filters. I wouldn't mind a closer look at the Cannon & Co GM fuel tank details to see if there is anything on it that could be used on a MM 201. Rich, I remember you saying that the new Murphy 201s are not quite right in the fuel tank area,what is the difference do you remember. Eamonn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I remember you saying that the new Murphy 201s are not quiteright in the fuel tank area,what is the difference do you remember. Eamonn Eamonn I just sent you an e-mail outlaying things including model and prototype pics and hopefully it should explain everything. Give me a heads up when you get it. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enniscorthyman Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Eamonn I just sent you an e-mail outlaying things including model and prototype pics and hopefully it should explain everything. Give me a heads up when you get it. Rich, Thanks Rich,I got e maill and will reply to you when I get back on the laptop tomorrow as my I pod touch won't let me view photos properly. Eamonn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 thanks rich,i got e maill and will reply to you when i getback on the laptop tomorrow as my i pod touch won't let me view photos properly. Eamonn specksavers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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