Modern 4w chassis

[StevieB]

Did CIE put the same chassis under the container flats, ballast wagons and cement bubbles that have been produced in model form by Provincial Wagons and IRM? And is it the same chassis under the magnesite wagons produced by IFM? And is the chassis for the Dapol prestwin the same, similar or nothing like? 

Stephen

[Garfield]

Hi Steve,

The ballasts, bubbles and magnesites shared a common chassis, but the container flat was slightly different. The chassis in the Prestwin kit is quite different from the Irish patterns, apart from having the same wheelbase.

 

Patrick

[StevieB]

Thanks for that.

I assume that this was also the case re the chassis for the two varieties of bagged cement wagons.

stephen

[BosKonay]

The bagged cement wagons are a different chassis entirely again (like the Beet wagons)

[StevieB]

It seems that CIE were just like BR in that respect. Rather than standardising, they had a proliferation of designs over the years. So, the chassis under the bagged cement wagons was different again. Anyone got any plans or photos, please?

Stephen

[Mayner]

13 hours ago, StevieB said:

It seems that CIE were just like BR in that respect. Rather than standardising, they had a proliferation of designs over the years. So, the chassis under the bagged cement wagons was different again. Anyone got any plans or photos, please?

Stephen

CIE had one basic design of 20' long 12'  wheel base vacuum braked wagon chassis that was used for flat. bulk cement, hoppers, ore and tank wagons built during the late 60s early 60s. The internal framing on hopper and bulk cement wagons was different from ordinary wagons due to the design of the hopper/tank body. The 1st batch of 20 ton flat wagons 25436-25982 introduced in 1966 had steel floors for container & general traffic  the second batch 27101-27767 were built as skeletals for container traffic.

CIEs final design of 4w flat wagon introduced in 1973 were slightly longer at 22'6" on a 14' wheelbase with a lower frame height to carry 8'6" containers.

The bagged cement and beet doubles were built on steel floored flat wagon chassis which were largely redundant by the mid 70s with the introduction of the bogie and 22'6" flat wagons which were capable of carrying 8'6" & 9' containers.

The bagged cement wagons were originally built with balanced vertical doors which were gradually replaced with curtain sides as the wagons were overhauled during the 1990s.