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In late 2016 my wife er sorry I mean my wife and I decided to move house from Haltwhistle (Centre of Britain) to be nearer to our 5 children and their families. As they live in Didcot, Nottingham, Southport, Brandon, Co Durham & Salt Lake City I am still not sure how she plans to achieve this, however this meant the immediate demise of my Model Railway with everything packed away back up in the loft room. 16 months further down the line we have had 2 people view the house and I am not hopeful that this rate of potential buyers will improve.

I have accordingly decided to build a new layout but capable of being dismantled and at 10' by 5ft- 3ins easily installed (famous last words) in a new property.

I have built numerous layouts over the years and back in the 1980's;90's exhibited 15 different ones at North East England Shows. I also have several different prototype interests Irish, North Eastern Steam, Scottish steam, Swiss and USA short line. I want a layout with shunting interest, fairly long trains (20 wagons) and continous running. The layout would also need extensive storage sidings to hold approx 7-8 complete trains. Storage sidings can be used with any of the particular area/company/country being modelled so only the actual station/yard will need to be inter-changeable. 

The baseboards are built and I have been checking that the trackwork actually fits the space available.

 

Glengarriff track layout check (5).JPG

Glengarriff behind station fiddle yard track layout check (4).JPG

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20 minutes ago, Irishswissernie said:

. . . I want a layout with shunting interest, fairly long trains (20 wagons) and continuous running. The layout would also need extensive storage sidings to hold approx 7-8 complete trains. . . .

Hi Ernie. Like the look of that. :) I too like long trains, but just wondering if long model trains with 20 two axle wagons might restrict the trackwork space available for interesting shunting operations. 12-15 wagons may more easily fit when shunted into sidings, yet look realistically long enough and snake across point work when shunting. Just another thought about wagon weights, you may need two locos double headed to manage 20+ wagons depending on the weight. I have arranged my IRM cement wagons into two trains, one uniform with 15 wagons and another mixed traffic with other wagons. Anyway looking forward to watching your layout evolve. As a matter of interest what material is the baseboard? Noel

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5 minutes ago, Noel said:

Hi Ernie. Like the look of that. :) I too like long trains, but just wondering if long model trains with 20 two axle wagons might restrict the trackwork space available for interesting shunting operations. 12-15 wagons may more easily fit when shunted into sidings, yet look realistically long enough and snake across point work when shunting. Just another thought about wagon weights, you may need two locos double headed to manage 20+ wagons depending on the weight. I have arranged my IRM cement wagons into two trains, one uniform with 15 wagons and another mixed traffic with other wagons. Anyway looking forward to watching your layout evolve. As a matter of interest what material is the baseboard? Noel

I reckon with all his experience, Ernie has taken this into account... ;)

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I have built numerous layouts over the years and back in the 1980's;90's exhibited 15 different ones at North East England Shows...

 

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The station area has 4 goods sidings plus a second loop (apart from the passing loop), the loop is to recess the local passenger as at Claremorris where the Ballina set used to wait between connections at Manulla. The cement silo siding is a loop; it is the curved innner siding leading back to the main fiddle yard and can take 20 wagons. Whilst the bubbles worked mainly as block trains on the prototype, when they reached the terminals they were often split and wagons shunted and re-arranged. At Waterford I videoe-d a set during the day having wagons removed/ and or shunted by 3 different 071 class which in the interim visited the fuelling point. The other sidings in the station are for Guinness, fertiliser or bagged cement.

One operation I noticed is that 4 wheel wagons were always worked behind bogie wagons on a train ; noted especially on a mix of Guinness wagons at Claremorris and Waterford and on Containers/Guinness at Limerick Junction.

At Claremorris the Ballina branch set and loco shunted Guinness wagons at times with the coaches on one end of the loco and wagons on the other. This was probably to cut down on shunting moves and noise in the middle of the night when the fulls arrived from Dublin.

The theme behind the model is that back in the 19th century ore was discovered west of Macroom in County Cork and a port was built between Glengarriff and Castletown Bearhaven on Bantry Bay by the company for exporting the mineral. At the same time the Mining company wanted better transportation by rail to the rest of Ireland and to overcome the problems caused by the Cork & Macroom Company and the CB&SC not being on speaking terms which had resulted in the connection between the 2 companies at Cork being taken out (It was re-instated in WW1 for troop movements at the insistence of the government) Plus of course at the time the Cork City railway had not been built so there was no connection at the time to the rest of the country. The GS&WR wanted a piece of the action so it financed a connection from Kilbarry south west via the cattle markets and Cork North station and then westwards to Ballincolling on the CM&DR. From their terminus at Macroom the line returned to the valley of the River Lee as far as the mine at Ballingeary and then via a tunnel under the Pass of Keimaneigh down to the shores of Bantry Bay , thence via Glengarriff to Castletown Bearhaven. All rather implausible given the gradients involved but I have amended the topography, geology, industry and population where needed to make the line a busy freight network ca2000. The 'Tara' wagons when they come will cover the ore trains from the mine to the port at Seal. Closure of the CB&SC system in the early 1960's resulted in an increase in freight via Glengarriff for the Bantry area and points south plus freight for the Oil industry installations in Bantry Bay.

OOPs! Forgot your query Noel. Baseboards and legs etc are 2" x 1" (my usual size used for over 30 years with no problems) and the baseboard tops are Sundeala board. This is relatively soft and can be cut with a sharp carpet Knife. It is braced underneath every 12" The station boards are 1/8th inch lower than the others as they will be ballasted with Gaugemaster ballast (one or two of the points in the photos have this attached still. They are from a previous layout.  

Well that's enough of tonight's bed-time reading. Lights out everybody!

Glengarriff track amended.jpg

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Its throwing it down and there's only me and the dogs at home tonight so I have done a bit more 'feasibility studying' plus adding the back boards to the station section. I can't make the back drop boards full height as if something derails in the back storage loops I need to reach over to get it. A mirror mounted on the wall will help me check that nothing is blocking the loops such as uncoupled wagon, dead mouse or secreted chocolate (All confirmed past causes!) The 2 x 1 stretchers will screw the 2 boards together like a box when interchanged thereby protecting the layout.

First photo shows station boards removed . Layout can still be operated as a continous run for testing or just playing trains.

Second photo shows 16 bubbles in the 'storage part' of the silo siding.

Third photo. Checking out train lengths etc.

Fourth photo. The passenger section is at the far end and will feature an Overall roof to disguise the exit. Only the platform ends will be modelled as I don't think anyone has replicated passengers alighting and boarding so basically nothing appears to happen when the train comes in.

 

Scenic section removed showing how various stations or themes can be interchanged. The layout can still be operated as a continous circuit for testing ot just playing trains!DSC02154.JPG

Storage part of the cement silo siding can hold 16 wagons 'off-stage'.JPG

The passenger section of the station is at the far right and will be covered by an Overall roof to disguise the exit. Only a small part of the platform ends will be depicted..JPG

Checking out train lengths and general siding layout..JPG

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