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This CAD also made its debut tonight at the SDMRC event. We will have more details about preordering and price in the coming weeks! :)

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Well that looks ideal for someone with a "fertile" imagination. I like the pallet inserts will these be  "plug and play" user changeable inserts for empty flows and or available on their own for lineside details.

Looking forward to pricing and ordering info - have to save  and eat less 

Thanks IRM!

Robert 

 

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Just wondering was the full compartements only over the bogies and half full in the rest of the compartements because of weight?

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warb

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3 hours ago, Warbonnet said:

This CAD also made its debut tonight at the SDMRC event. We will have more details about preordering and price in the coming weeks! :)

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Love model. I have been looking forward to this above all else so far. Iconic and superb detail! True to your word. Thanks for posting Fran! @Warbonnet

2 hours ago, Robert Shrives said:

Well that looks ideal for someone with a "fertile" imagination. I like the pallet inserts will these be  "plug and play" user changeable inserts for empty flows and or available on their own for lineside details

 

I had the same thought as soon as I saw the CAD or read your post. Would be great to have that extra details for lineneside loads, like the containers, instead of putting the loads aside.

2 hours ago, warb said:

Just wondering was the full compartements only over the bogies and half full in the rest of the compartements because of weight?

This is an interesting question following on the comment on another thread that the Taras were only ever half full so as not to exceed the  IR axle weight. One presumes they were built sturdily enough to take loads in the center. The density of zinc ore and bagged (Portland) cement are not dissimilar (between 3.1 and 3.4 kg/cu meter, ore being slightly more dense but only half that of the purified metal). Perhaps the Taras were a little wider or the wagon itself more heavily built because of the raw ore rather than bagged and shaped cement powder?

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I seem to remember that the two middle bays had a wooden cross member fitted across to stop anyone loading a second level of pallets in those bays.

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8-12 I think was the norm.

From the IRRS Journal, 2002

" On Wednesday 19 December, 230 + 12 bogies of fertiliser arrived in Portlaoise at 10.15. The next day saw 10 laden fertiliser wagons in Adelaide yard in Belfast. On Thursday 20 December, 10 empty fertiliser bogies were worked to Shelton Abbey, (Arklow) to be loaded for Belfast. Fifty-four empty bogie-fertiliser wagons were observed in North Wall in early December."

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This photo on my flickr site I took at North Wall bears out the only one pallet in the centre 2 bays.

I also video'd various mixed Liners with around 4 ferts in the consists

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/5739848398/in/album-72157626638886303/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/5739849932/in/album-72157626638886303/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/5768010571/in/album-72157626825629406/

ERnie

 

or even just 1!

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Wow these will be special judging from the CAD. There is a lot of detail in these wagons and there must have been a lot of head scratching and late nights at the designing stage.  As seems to be the norm the let's make this one the new benchmark will succeed.

Rich

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I know I sound like a broken record at this stage but....

Will there be buffer options with this model featuring the old large diameter round profiles too?

 

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1 hour ago, Railer said:

I know I sound like a broken record at this stage but....

Will there be buffer options with this model featuring the old large diameter round profiles too?

Agree if feasible that would be a nice option, but not a deal breaker.  I have big old round buffers on this 3D print and they look beefy. :) 

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This is going to be really something else judging by the cad, it just gets better and better, a great time to be in the hobby

all thanks to you lads,. very well done.

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We're looking into the feasibility of the big round buffers at the moment, but may put the cost up overall. Ongoing....

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1 hour ago, Warbonnet said:

We're looking into the feasibility of the big round buffers at the moment, but may put the cost up overall. Ongoing....

Can they not be implemented like the buffer options on the HUOs, or is it a case of not enough demand to go down that road?

It's just that they feature on the 42 flats overall and I'm sure others will ask for it too, if not now but in the future near release.

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6 minutes ago, Railer said:

Can they not be implemented like the buffer options on the HUOs, or is it a case of not enough demand to go down that road?

It's just that they feature on the 42 flats overall and I'm sure others will ask for it too, if not now but in the future near release.

The issue with that is that we will make a lot more HUOs than 42ft flats that will use these buffers and bogies. As we are doing later iterations of the flat for the spoils, weedsprayer and guinness kegs for example it narrows the focus of these buffers to some liner flats and some ferts and the ridemaster bogies to some flats only, especially as we already have the buffers and bogies tooled as part of the Tara wagon which was built into this overall plan (the flats were always going to be a follow on from the Tara as we first planned it) As I have said it is being considered, but we dont know if the sums add up just yet. It will also delay the project as they will need to be designed and measured. We also see that the demand for supertrain era stock, which these buffers and bogies would fall into, is less than later era, so we have to ask ourselves; "will they sell?". This is down to the experience of what we have sold so far, and our previous customer survey. 

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On 6/14/2018 at 8:14 AM, mfjoc said:

I seem to remember that the two middle bays had a wooden cross member fitted across to stop anyone loading a second level of pallets in those bays.

This is correct and will be present on the model we're happy to say. We have a photo of the beam which helps!

Also, we are looking to do the loads as a separate lineside accessory as per the 20ft CIE container. Good for yards and backs of lorries etc. :) 

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On 6/14/2018 at 2:14 AM, mfjoc said:

I seem to remember that the two middle bays had a wooden cross member fitted across to stop anyone loading a second level of pallets in those bays.

Yikes! Something g to do with e quality of the IRM model, she’s fully loaded!

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21 hours ago, Warbonnet said:

This is correct and will be present on the model we're happy to say. We have a photo of the beam which helps!

Also, we are looking to do the loads as a separate lineside accessory as per the 20ft CIE container. Good for yards and backs of lorries etc. :) 

It just gets better and better..... =D

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