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On 7/27/2020 at 8:24 PM, jhb171achill said:

 

If it turns out that it's narrow gauge, we've another issue entirely on our hands; with Cork & Muskerry Railway being the most likely contender. I'm not sure it IS narrow-gauge, though.

Its broad gauge, we have a member who inspected it

On 7/30/2020 at 1:44 AM, Horsetan said:

 

I reckon it'll be about three million Euro to get it going, allowing for inflation.

Having been involved in what has been one of the most comprehensive rebuilds of any steam loco now in Ireland it most certainly wouldn't cost that but would be a significant amount. Some practical thoughts are that once it leaves Whitehead it to me would seem unlikely to be restored to steaming condition. The lack of a running line also presents a problem.

Great work however and I'm sure will look great.

10 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

It is indeed CVR, but the odd thing is, it was never listed as having been sold at all, never mind to the CDR; thus it was by default recorded as having been scrapped. At no stage does it appear to exist in any CDR stock lists or records, and it is not included in the above list of sale items from the CVR to the CDR.

The thing has literally disappeared from all records, anywhere, when the CVR closed in 1942. Nowhere after that has it (so far) appeared to exist at all, yet photographic evidence of it operating on the CDR shows it as late as 1947 at least. 

Its funny about railway companies where records say X whereas an image says Y. Its a bit like the T&D carriage that wento to Leitrim it was listed as 22L (ex 5T) this according to Bristol's records was built in 1890. In recent years we recovered bristol carriage plates from outside ballinamore with CIE green around them. It is 99% from 22L as its very unlikely another exT&D carriage came this far north west. The problem is the plate is dated 1891......

Leads me to believe 22L was not 5T at all, probably 9T! This was the only brake dated 1891!

On 4/4/2020 at 5:22 PM, DiveController said:

It's a sad fact of life that railway heritage railways seems to be harder to sustain in Ireland than some other areas, hence the financial issues. Some external factor outlined above certainly didn't help either.

The Tralee and Blennerville Railway closed in 2006.
 

The blennerville line closed in around 2009, they borrowed Jackie Whelan's loco, but it derailed. They had no equipment to jack it. As a result they had to bring in a heavy crane! They had't and still don't have a clue. I tried to help out get it going again back in 2015/2016 and there was quite a bit of interest and looked like we were going somewhere, I had a loco secured for the revival, after a few meetings with the Council I realised the project was doomed. I then moved onto Stradbally and now am involved in Dromod. Both open railways that need more people and resources.

The main problems with Blennerville were the lack of enthusiasm, there was no voluntary arm or society. It was a FAS gang with no strategy. Also no diesel loco to take on quieter periods or take over from 5T. Out of all the lines in Ireland the blennerville line goes from somewhere to somewhere and has high tourism potential, the line had 40,000 passengers in its first year. Also if you know where to look you could create a vintage train. Just with the Council in the way (one individual) nothing will happen.

On 3/26/2020 at 11:25 AM, jhb171achill said:

We’re off to Dromod and Ballinamore. I haven’t an exact date but these are about 1931/2, taken by my grandfather this time. Locomotive No. 1 “Isabel” was the last C & L engine to remain in pre-GSR leaf green livery. Here this may be discerned, in its typical C & L cosmetic shabbiness once the GSR & later CIE were in charge.

 

Excellent pic JB. As has been stated here very similar scene has been recreated from this angle. Those interested should look at us on Facebook for more upto date information.

Looks very CVR, GSR/CIE bought some ex CVR wagons and rail at closure I understand. Some wagons went to Ballinamore but were not used. Bord na Mona also got a lot of rail.

On 3/22/2020 at 2:31 PM, Galteemore said:

Lovely - one of my favourite spots. Apparently the Guards captured a German agent in the vicinity either there or at the Junction in 1940/41. He was waiting for a train by the most up to date timetable the Abwehr had - which didn’t factor in the closure! 

That was Dingle, he was caught by Dick Mack who was in the local FCA. They allowed him to travel on passed tralee where he was "picked up".

JHB they were all different as a result, the one that went to Leitrim 22L had external framing done at Limerick, whereas the one that went to Clare had external panelling.

Also that image of Castle is superb! My grandad travelled on it to the Christian Brothers in Tralee. I have a 7mm model of the station building! Yes I know the loco is HO scale before anyone asks my sanity. 

On 7/5/2019 at 6:04 PM, jhb171achill said:

A couple of carriages on the T & D were rebuilt as brakes. I think there were two thus treated, though I’d have to check, but possibly three. One, as seen above, retained windows but the other as also seen above, didn’t. 

The Great Southern rebuilt them as goods brakes on the T & D, and following its closure in 1953, one was transferred to the C & L.

Hi Jonathan,

All the brakes that survived the civil war/war of independence were converted to cattle brakes with exception of 14T a 30' brake which was transferred to the West Clare, AND survived! Who knows it may well be out there.

I have the two original carriage plates from 22L..it was rebuilt by CIE in its final condition (attached). Also some other T&D bits, my collection has grown though!

We were proud to commemorate this by having Nancy being handed over to the Cavan and Leitrim Railway on 30th March 2019, bringing steam back to the railway. We also had a volunteer who drove number 2 at stradbally Friday and drove Nancy the following day! This has probably not happened on the narrow gauge in the ROI since the C&L closed as Ireland's last steam exclusive line.

Follow progress here: https://www.facebook.com/cavanandleitrimrailway/

I've just purchased from TeeBee Models a 009 scale 2-6-0T Kerr Stuart, based on 4T on the Tralee and Dingle.

I deliberately chose this scale to suit the Chivers Hunslet models I have. Now trying to get 009 / 3mm version carriages printed so interested in this cost debate,

I spoke with the author many times during it and gave him the caption for the image of 6T on the C&L at Tomkin Road. T&D book out next year that I'm quite involved in.

Our own steam loco "Nancy" features among the Ironstone railways. She will be the first 3ft gauge iron stone steam loco to run in preservation and was very much akin to a Barry rebuild for us. We have spent £160,000 to date and she will return in February to Dromod.

Further details can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/irishnarrowgauge/

For those of you who wish to donate click here: https://sites.google.com/site/thecavanandleitrimrailway/-nancy (we are still fundraising transport for her return)

I wonder is this the shade of GSR grey I saw mention by JB sometime ago

Murphy came to Dromod to measure the cab we have, apparently it was different from the last drawings he had! I'd imagine from the constant rebuilding

On 10/20/2018 at 6:31 PM, Mike 84C said:

 

 

That is a Schull and Skibbereen van, the only one in existence I'm aware of! Looks in great condition! Would love to see what the condition of the underframe is!

On 9/8/2018 at 9:03 PM, jhb171achill said:

Thanks to some research by 00 Works, and comparison with what as far as I'm aware is the only surviving sample of original paint, the correct shade of grey has finally been identified / matched.

My understanding is that Roderick will be able to supply it for anyone modelling steam.

Excellent!!!

On 10/16/2018 at 9:52 PM, jhb171achill said:

Communication with someone else not on this board tonight reminded me of jhb171Senior’s forays by rail to Rathkenny (NCC Cushendall narrow gauge), Draperstown and Dungiven. 

Then I'm searching for info on it and find these; one was 2 weeks before passenger trains ended to Dingle & Castlegregory, and the other an apparently very random jaunt!

 

The only Dingle ticket I've seen!! Incredible gem!

The attached is (C) William Ford taken at Cushina Works

The green in the photo I've taken is on a poor quality phone camera, in reality it is quite dark and is Andrew Barclay green and although missing some of the lining below I am very happy with it.

Hi All,

I am a novice to modelling anything, I have a large stash of 00 gauge bits. However I have always had an interest in narrow gauge railways particularly the Tralee and Dingle. I also volunteer on the Stradbally Woodland and Cavan & Leitrim Railways, along with being a co-ordinator for the Avonside "Nancy" Restoration Project.

I recently purchased a minitrains boehler 0-4-0WT and sent it away to be customised by James Hilton (available on Google) into one of the Andrew Barclay 0-4-0WT locos, the results are astonishing! I'm tempted to go and form a small BNM outline layout with a few turf wagons. Any suggestions would be welcome.

I have just sent away two partially built Chivers Tralee and Dingle Hunlset loco's to be modified and detailed for me, will update you when they return.

Hi All,

Particularly aimed at Narrow Gauge enthusiasts, the Cavan and Leitrim appeared at the Alan Keef Open day on 22nd September to display our own Avonside 0-6-0T Nancy. She has been at Keefs since 1999, 20 years later and £165,000 she will be steamed by year end and will return home early next year.

We have fully funded her restoration but there are some additional costs such as a chimney and other parts, including transport to Ireland. (link to funding page on paypal below)

Some pics below:

the whistle comes from a Lough Swilly big giant 4-8-4T loco, when steamed we will hear a lough swilly engine for the first time in generations!

The whistle from one of the Lough Swilly big giants will be fitted to our Avonside loco "Nancy", a lough swilly engine will be heard again for the first time in generations!

link below for funding, we have fully funded her restoration £165,000 in all, we just need to fund her return home!

Lovely narrow gauge scenes! 

Your model of 4 and 6 look like T&D Kerr Stuart number 4 or 4T, where did you get this?!

I have to find the time and space to get started in 009!

I have several Chivers T&D whitemetal kits completed, or partially completed. I have Hunslet number 5 2-6-2T, and 4 of the 2-6-0T's. I do know the difference in height etc. however my aim is purely demonstration and a feel not complete accuracy.

Parkside Dundas have just released 009 T&D van kits that are relatively easy to assemble (plastic) 

009 heaven by Bachmann! Great to see them!

Hi All,

A quick question, I have several T&D Chivers 009 model kits bodies assembled and would like to add handrails and knobs to add more detail to the loco.

I have Alan Gibson short knobs and brass wire, but very little experience as to how to go about it. I even have a small hand drill to cut a hole in the whitemetal body.

If anyone can assist let me know

Here is 5T seen overlooking Slea Head and the Blaskets, surely the furthest a T&D loco has gone!