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  1. On 5/1/2020 at 3:20 PM, Midland Man said:

    Found some pics both by Ciaran Cooney so I hope there is no copy right and if there is  I will delete the photos so Ciaran if you see this I am sorry.

    First is 086 in silver. I saw this engine in that colur on its way to Westport once. Note the door is in intercity orange.

    Nexted is 074. Again I have seen it but This was Way after it was overhauled in Inchcore at the beginning of May 2018 and was in Grey but was quite dirty.

    I have to admit I will miss the colur when they repaint 086 but it is quite ugly when the loco is dirty.

    MM

     

    Yes they're mine MM, and I don't mind, glad you found the photos of interest, I'll just mentioned they were published in IRRS Journal 197, one of the last to feature them in those colours. Just probably another point of interest on the black/sliver livery, 074 in its last year or so did not have any IE logos on its bodysides, as shown in that view at Drumcondra, and which gave the locomotive a somewhat cleaner and neater appearance, unlike the others as you say which got quite dirty and tired looking(!). There's some further livery details and dates about the 071s in the archive photo feature in Journal 191 which you may have:

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  2. It's been such a shock the news of Anthony’s sudden and unexpected passing. Anthony was the first person I met and spoke to when I first attended the IRRS’s well known Tuesday ‘Library Night’, more than 10 years ago now. For newcomers, the IRRS can be very daunting, but Anthony welcomed me with great enthusiasm, he being warm, sincere and friendly, for which many people can no doubt testify. You could chat to Anthony on any railway or transport subject, no matter how obscure or broad the subject was. I vividly remember he was thrilled to speak to me and about my ‘eiretrains’ website, so much so he spoke that very evening to senior IRRS personnel, suggesting to them I might be worth becoming involved in the society. This kind gesture of Anthony’s, so typically of him, subsequently led to me to have many fulfilling years in the IRRS, the majority of which I had the pleasure of spending with Anthony volunteering in the archives, as well as travelling together on railtours, Society outings and a few memorable ‘chases’, of which now I wish we might have had more of, not to mention soccer matches (he Rovers, I Bohs).

    I find it hard to believe it was just this time last year Anthony and myself welcomed the All-The-Stations duo Vicki and Geoff to the IRRS premises. We’d been let down by other documentary and TV people before, but not this time, they did us proud; Anthony was brilliant and we both beamed with pride as we showcased the mammoth task that is preserving the historical archives and library that makes the IRRS. It was something we both wanted to achieve so much. Many of the positive things in the IRRS often come about because of individual initiatives and sacrifices the tiny number of volunteers undertake (and I mean tiny). It’s the sort of stuff that’s hardly documentary and not often appreciated, particularly when only the ‘end product’ is visible. Anthony was one of these volunteers, who gave freely countless hours to the Society, promoting the work of the IRRS, improving its image and saving innumerable quantity of historical records of all formats for well over 10 years. He gave me great support and encouragement and his loss to us will be particularly hard, but even more so for his wonderful family, whose heart I feel for the most at this present time.

    May he Rest in Peace.

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    With his son Oisín, whose holding the famous IRRS headboard (made of letters from Greenore signal cabin), on the August 2017 IRRS railtour, and below, the friendly smile and wave enjoying the IRRS 80 Class railtour in 2011.

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  3. Just a reminder that in addition to Leslie's above talk tomorrow, this Thursday 6th February 2020 is also the IRRS's inaugural meeting in Manchester, should anyone based in the north-west of England wish to meet likeminded Irish railway enthusiasts.

    Details of this Manchester meeting, venue and time can be found at the link below:

    http://irishrailarchives.ie/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/IRRS-Manchesternew.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0F7CxJ9qSCdiwdbCRfRGxNUFKTgzyrhEH6abkfqkA5iqZDgK6xT0udmmE

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  4. There's an excellent feature called Memories of the Railway in Castlerock by Des Crockett in IRRS Journal 191 (Oct 2016), detailing the fertiliser trains (and freight in general) on the Derry line, with the different motive power combinations being illustrated, including the NIR 70 Class railcars.

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  5. 52 minutes ago, hexagon789 said:

    I have October 1985 in the job lot I purchased, sadly not June 1984. As an aside, I know the IRRS website states one can obtain back issues for reasonable cost, but does anyone know how you actually go about doing that on their website or am I missing something?

    Sorry Ben(!), corrections it's actually Journals 94 and 95 (the June and October 1984 issues of course). I would recommend emailing membership@irrs.ie, which is normally where IRRS journal queries are generally addressed to. Hope this helps.

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  6. Journals Nos. 94 (June 1984) and 95 (October 1984) contain the news items covering the spec and delivery of the BREL Mk3 stock. They aren't, as Leslie indicates, dedicated articles, but they nonetheless give a useful and brief overview of the stock and their introduction to traffic. Incidentally the latest Journal (No. 200) has a short article on the Mk3s operating a 100mph trial train in 1984 prior to the stock commencing regular services. Hope this may be of use.

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  7. There was only a couple left in Hodges Figgis on Friday, so it's being snapped up very quickly, they may have more in stock again this week. I've heard there's the possibility of another volume in the pipeline but covering the CIE 'black & tan' era of the 1960s and 70s.

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  8. 4 hours ago, flange lubricator said:

    001 kept the highlighted numbers for many years afterwards which kind of made it unique .

     

    I think thing about this was that locomotive 001's cab-front numbers were unlike those shaded numbers that were applied later to other A Classes and GMs; possibly unique as the shaded part was an unusual peach colour with a bolder shadow and was applied, along with the black roof, as part of the inaugural Supertrain livery, making 001 easily recognisable (the numbers sort of jump out!) compared to the other locomotives which got shaded numbers as the fleet were gradually repainted from 1972 onward.

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    44 minutes ago, Irishrailwayman said:

    Interesting to see the green A Class with the black/tan carriages!

    The A42 was the loco involved in the Mullingar accident referenced below in earlier posts of this thread. The picture of it at Carlisle Pier dated 1962 I always thought may be suspect(!), given the black & tan stock, as it more reminiscent of the way the engine emerged from Inchicore post-1963 in the dark green unlined livery. This is believed to be the last A Class to remain in green in the 1960s.

    On 10/27/2018 at 11:59 PM, flange lubricator said:

    I think A42 was the last green A class ???

     

    On 10/28/2018 at 9:14 PM, Eiretrains said:

    Locomotive A42 was originally in the silver as delivered and it may have retained this prior to the accident, as a few silver ones survived into early 1960s (in poor appearance as one can imagine) but I suspect if it had a livery change before then it would be green. This picture (slightly off colour) suggests dark green without lining in 1962, a year before Mullingar - date may be suspect though. I may draw attention that the dark green it did re-emerge in following the accident did not feature any lining too (like as in the picture) and it remained so until repainted into the overall black livery just prior to the re-engining programme.

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  10. 9 hours ago, DiveController said:

    So, prior (and during) the accident in 1963 what was A42 liveried in? Also dark green which was restored or something else e.g. light green?  Certainly that would be the loco to have in dark green for anyone modeling the later 1960s but depending what it wore before that would it also appropriate to 1955-1963 also? if so, a must for sure.

    Locomotive A42 was originally in the silver as delivered and it may have retained this prior to the accident, as a few silver ones survived into early 1960s (in poor appearance as one can imagine) but I suspect if it had a livery change before then it would be green. This picture (slightly off colour) suggests dark green without lining in 1962, a year before Mullingar - date may be suspect though. I may draw attention that the dark green it did re-emerge in following the accident did not feature any lining too (like as in the picture) and it remained so until repainted into the overall black livery just prior to the re-engining programme.

  11. 1 minute ago, flange lubricator said:

    I think A42 was the last green A class ???

    Yes I believe it was the last A Class in service to carry the green livery. It was involved in the Mullingar smash in December 1963 and when it re-emerged from the works repaired a year or two later it was in the dark green livery mentioned above, which it had until the late 1960s, it should have been repainted into the black colours but Inchicore staff painted it green so making it a little unique.

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  12. The old platform in Barrack St yard was removed in the mid-1970s during track alterations to accommodate the freight container gantry, around 1975-6. The video you mention, I've seen it posted on Facebook groups. This is a direct link to the video (but you may have to join the page Dundalk Northend and Friends Old and New Photos to see it), it was filmed shortly before Barrack St closed in 1995. https://www.facebook.com/larry.ohagan/videos/10209655126169960/ Hope this of help.

     

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  13. The photo site www.flickr.com is a handy free site for archiving and displaying one's photos, which enables users to determine whether they wish to display photos entirely to the public or specifically restrict images to other individual like-minded users on Flickr. Although any form of image display is impossible to fully protect, Flickr to some extent allows for a trustworthy environment to exist for people to display photos. It's used, for instance, for IRRS members to view some of the society's Irish railway archive photos here: www.flickr.com/people/irishrailwayarchive/

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  14. 1 hour ago, WRENNEIRE said:

    Did you say you were doing a Weedspray?

    Ballybrophy 1980 is written on the back

    A Class double heading,

    That's an interesting photo, the A Classes were gathered there in 1980 to get the asbestos removed from their cabs, the work been undertaken inside the old locomotive shed in the distance. I suspect that may not be a double header on the sprayer but just engines positioned temporarily there. The old sprayer was no longer used by then, with the newer yellow tanks version being introduced in 1978, but the old sprayer languished in Ballybrophy during 1980s.

    I was wondering with the model version proposed, will one be able to remove the yellow tanks from the bogey flat so one could recreate the sprayer with shorter 4-wheel flat wagons?:D

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  15. 49 minutes ago, flange lubricator said:

    As far as I am aware the highlighted numbers were hand painted and this is now done by stencil, transfers , interestingly enough you mention 202 which was involved in  mishap with 182  about 1998 /99 this coincided with the restoration of saloon 351 and some of the retired painters were involved in this project and were working on 351 at about the time 202 was being repaired , so possibly they did the highlighted numbers on 202  ????

    Thanks for that info, I wasn't sure why 202 may have have acquired those style of numbers after delivery in 1994. I just checked the IRRS Journals and 202 is recorded as having a mishap first in Ballinasloe in 1997 and secondly with 182 in February 1998. Likewise I recall been told that 202's shaded numbers came about because of some of the 'old' Inchicore staff.

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  16. 5 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

    As far as the black roof was concerned, my recollection is that this was unique, yes. As for the shaded numerals, quite a few engines had this initially. I have a picture somewhere of a 181 (I think it was 190) with numerals shaded, and the A class had them too. I don't recall seeing them on Cs or 121s though, however they might have appeared on 121s.

    Aside from what is known of locomotive 001's own style and the A Class fleet, which I had specifically referred to in my post, yes some GMs received those deep shaded numerals, 190 being a well known one due to her stint on the last passenger operated days of the WRC in 1976, and thus crops up now and again in photos from that time. An odd one of the modern period was 201 Class engine 202 which had those exact same style numerals from the 1970s, making it easily identifiable in a way that locomotive 001 would have stood out amongst other similarly liveried A Class 'Supertrain' engines in the 1970s.

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  17. On 16/02/2018 at 10:46 PM, flange lubricator said:

    That looks very like  a white line and black roof to me and if my eyes are not gone bad altogether that looks like a broken circle on the side of the loco!!!!!

    I too was thrown by the b/w image. :)

    The engine was A59R, and the scene was set up for the press to record the 'new' wagon, particularly alongside the older bulleid wagons and the earlier shorter flats.

    On the subject of liveries and the B+I liner workings, the early runs of this train featured locomotive B206 (the first re-engined C Class), and which featured the wider tan band, believed to be the only B201 Class engine with this livery variant. When locomotive A1R become Supertrain '001' it first had shaded numerals and a black roof but I don't think the remaining A Class locos were similarly outshopped. 

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  18. During the period of the blue livery on the Tara Mines wagons it was almost always an A Class, that said a (B)201 did also work one. During the very early days of trial running to Tara Mines and at Dublin Port with the blue wagons some trains were hauled by 141/181 GMs, some in both Supertrain and Black/Tan liveries, so a rake of blue Taras with those locomotives is still very prototypical.:cheers:

    The 071s did not regularly appear on Taras until the mid-1990s when the A Class fleet dwindled, by then the wagons had long lost their original blue appearance. I think there was something about the track layout at the ore terminals which may have prevented the 071s working the trains until track alterations were made.

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  19. According to Railfans News (full details August 1969, No.3), the vintage carriage used in the film shoot at Enniscorthy was saloon carriage 150N (in NIR ownership), an illustration of the complete unusual train appears in IRRS Journal No. 185. The photo of GSWR No. 352 is likely on the IRRS outing of 9 July 1960, the one via Ballylinan and Palace East.

  20. 38 minutes ago, Garfield said:

    I’m almost certain there’s a photo of G601 in derelict condition wearing Black and Tan at Inchicore back in the late ‘80s/early ‘90s in one of the Traction & Travel books. Won’t get to check until tomorrow, though. 

    G602 had a bit of black/orange tarpaulin thrown over it when stored in Inchicore during the 1970s, and at a quick glance a photo may give the impression of black/tan colour.:) Incidentally one of the Silverfox models now and again shows what the livery may have looked like on the G601s.

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