Noel

What .... Remember your speech to me. " ah I just buy a couple ....." , maybe that was a couple of dozen

"Careful now - down with that sort of thing!"

It was you who encouraged me to order more!!! - Pot/Kettle :)

Ordered 3 more sets - enough is obviously not enough - ouch!

IFM CIE Laminate in a mixed rake. Two more poor phone shots from other angles.

PS: Forgive, but I enjoy my own imaginary model railway world hence the mix of Irish and UK steam stock predominantly pre 1975.

Running trains this evening. Open freight loads. It never rains here.

(posted earlier on other thread)

An imaginary 'knock special' scene - Newly arrived IFM Laminate in mixed rake of MM Cravens and IFM Park Royals. Need more figures from the Fr Ted set.

Thanks. Very interesting. If possible please rotate the images right way up before uploading.

Ah, just been told by a reliable source its one of these

http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/3553-Generator-cars-for-irish-coaching-stock-specifically-HLV/page2?highlight=wheel+heating

Six wheeler!!! Anybody producing a model or kit of same?

Does anybody know what the van behind the A class in galway is. The roof has some bits on it suggesting it may have been a heating type van as opposed to just a luggage van or P&T van. Also does anybody know if it was a bogie van, twin axil or three axil setup?

It has a very distinctive side profile with the vertical upper section sloping outwards as it falls before the lower tumblehome. The same van seems to appear again in the Westport station pic.

Would love some close up shots, also of the Park Royals. I have never had a good look at them either. It does seem to fit in well with the Cravens at that angle.

Sure. Will take some more at the weekend when I get some time.

Looks good Noel, any chance of close up pictures please?

Christmas arrived slightly early. Delighted with Irish Freight models new CIE laminate coach. It is superb. Looks right at home in a mixed rake of MM Cravens, IFM Park Royal and IFM Laminate. Thanks and well done Tom and Irish Freight Models. Looking forward to getting a few more.

Super photos. Really enjoyed the trip back in time!

Agree - Loads of loose coupled unbraked goods wagon formations with brake vans, corrugated wagons, vans, Black and Tan, not a double bogie to be seen, few boring containers, nostalgia memories of what freight and passenger trains once were. My favourite era. Operationally very interesting and diverse compared to what followed after 1980. Can't stop progress but can't help liking all the shunting, running around trains, intricate track work, turn tables, and wonderful little goods yards at every station now long lost.

Thanks Guys for your helpful feedback. Think I will do a few trial sections of all of the above.

Thank you. Fabulous slides. Will be really helpful for my next project.

I am surprised to see that your foam underlay has lasted 20 years. Mine started to disintegrate after about 15 years.

I have to login again every time I access the forum using iPhone which uses the mobile template. Not a problem on iPad which uses the full site template and no problem on desktop browsers. It seems to be related to the phone sized template

I recall a Model Group in England doing experiments on different type of ballast to get quiet running and their recommendation to to use Bostic instead of PVA as the rubber texture prevented the soundboard effect.

Interesting. Bostic to glue the foam to the board I presume, as I can't imagine bostic can be thinned or watered down to use to glue ballast between the sleepers (i.e. use PVA for the ballast and bostic to stick foam to board).

Hi Folks. Sorry of this has been covered here before. I've searched the forum but did not find a specific thread on the matter.

What track ballasting method do folk prefer?

Our current layout was 'temporarily' ballasted with foam underlay 20 years ago and it was always the plan to either re-ballast it later once the track plan was finalised, or alternatively lay ballast right up to the existing edges of the form underlay. Many moons ago on previous layouts I had ballasted using paint and various grades of sand, but the noise was deafening. I've read a lot of posts on other forums and watched a lot of youtube clips espousing the various methods, but just wondering what you guys have found works well. The one thing I want to avoid is transferring loud noise to the baseboard, so I like the idea of some form of sound insulation (e.g. cork, form, etc). At the moment there is virtually no noise transmitted into our baseboard due the foam underlay so the layout is nice and quiet (i.e. better to hear sound chips).

Thats very impressive already and looks like it is going to be very special when it is finished. Keep us posted.

Hello folks , I finally bought an aerosol to paint my silverfox A class . I specified RAL 2011 but it seems a very light shade , it is definitely lighter than the orange on the MM 141 I have .

Does anyone know where I could get the correct shade ?

 

Brian.

Hi Brian

Experienced folks like Glenderg and others are best equipped to answer your question. This Phoenix paint may suit http://www.marksmodels.com/?pid=15977 but lets see what the lads come up with.

Noel

Seems your the only one who keeps making this gripe, but Ill outline a few reasons why its rarely seen at Irish Exhibitions, as someone who has sat on organising committees. Some examples might be seen as extreme but everything needs to be taken into account. Its not just how one person might see it

 

Space - its limited. Would you rather see a very high standard layout or a table selling weak tea,cold coffee and stale scones and sandwiches

 

Litter - besides discarded cups and wrappers, droppages and spillages are not needed. Given todays litigation society, a discarded sandwich or spilled coffee is seen as bad as the proverbial banana skin

 

Health and safety - your in a public place and often in an area that is not being used for its intended purpose. Is there a risk assessment for that coffee machine on top of that school desk? What happens if its proven people got food poisoning after the same knives/chopping board was used for both raw meat and cooked meat? Some voluntary weekend staff might forget they are making food for public consumption

 

Staff/Resources - most shows in Ireland provide catering for the exhibitors only. Sometimes this is provided by the organising club and it could be the other halves of members. Occasionally a catering company will be brought in. Often the resources are not there. Mrs O'Reilly makes lovely sandwiches and scones but she might end up giving you the wrong change without the slightest notion. She might not be used to dealing with complaints either.

 

The Market here does not require catering. Plenty of shops and restaurants near the vicinity of the show. Blackrock is 2 mins up the road

 

In short - the demand is not there, not to mention everything Ive outlined above

Sorry but 1) it was only a suggestion not a gripe, 2) a small professional caterer looks after everything and makes a profit so no volunteers needed nor rubbish on floors, 3) it only needs a single class room, and 4) I wasn't the only one who thought of it and I hadn't mentioned it before. The SDMRC put on a great show and it would have been no more than a welcome add on. I have organised many events and business shows large and small over the years and it's easy as pie to get a caterer to come in and run a small snack bar at their own expense. At some events they even pay for the space because of the profit margins they can make over a few days. I hope no hard feelings, it was just a constructive suggestion.

Superb piece of craftsmanship, well done

+1

Impressive work

So - WHEN is enough "enough"?

 

Answer: when you've loads of stuff you know you'll never, ever, use; and you can't take it with you. Sell and enjoy the money or use it for a practical purpose.

 

(Must get all the stuff I have organised for use or sale! Any 009 fans out there?)

Food for thought. All these new temptations, IFM laminates, IRM ballasts, AEC 2600 DVT, PW Bulleid's, 121s down the tracks, Shapeways A class on Athearn chassis, Marks Sale, etc. Where will it all end Ted?

Enough dreaming . . .

I suppose I fall into the camp of only collecting for a particular layout in mind. so that focus the attention. Equally I have no recollection of steam, but a great association with the GM engines in particular, having been given many a cab ride in the waterford area.

 

Interesting comment re difference between Irish and British modellers, suggesting they are more focused. I dont think thats the case at all, I think for years unless you were a skilled scratch builder ( and its still true to some extent) you couldnt model the " Irish Scene " even if you wanted to . SO we limited ourselves to rail models that in reality we had no nostalgic connection with , aka British Steam. Of course where that leaves an irish modeller with british diesels is entirely unclear!! ( Noel )

 

I hope ruth all the availability of Irish mdoels, we shall see in the next 10-15 years some brilliant Irish layouts with prototypical layouts, maybe even a 21mm extravaganza . It seven getting fashionable across the water to consider Irish layouts to move away from the mass of blue diesels ( and ours sounds way way better, well until they got class 68s of course )

 

 

The sad thing is whats coming after us, a generation will almost zero contact with modern irish railways , and such a railway that haa very little to offer modellers , I find that sad , especially when modern image modellers in the UK has gone through a huge boon, with privatisation etc

Some good points and my lexdisia was able to understand the touch screen spelling Tuoch srceen cna mkae a rael mese of tpying but fokl kan sitll undretsand waht yuo maen.

Btw, the TV and films many Irish modellers have watched over the past 50 years generally depict trains as being UK steam era, combined with hornby toy sets had created a sort of false 'nostalgia' effect in the ROI market, despite folks here never having travelled on same. (Ie TV and movies kept steam alive in folks heads long after it was gone). Some NI folks lucky to have living memory of steam.

And many adults, "ooh look at Thomas" (typical parent with kid pointing at an ICR)

But an ICR is surely a dead duck!

Ps. Off topic but the launch of "Thomas" on TV in the mid 80s is reputed to have partially saved the hobby by introducing a new generation to toy trains in an era where toy train set sales were falling off a cliff.

The "duck test" tends to suffice for kids.