Containers

[DJ Dangerous]

Thanks, @MOGUL!

The SamSkip and P&O 45's look awesome.

I've been a bit disappointed with some Dapol containers. The print quality has been rough compared to @Arran's,  which are top notch. Hopefully these 45's are better...

And that we soon have 47' flats to run them on!

[leslie10646]

You can still buy my 20ft CIE containers - wink, wink.

[DJ Dangerous]

Just now, leslie10646 said:

You can still buy my 20ft CIE containers - wink, wink.

Do you know some trade secret about 22' flats that we don't?

[jhb171achill]

On 27/5/2022 at 5:00 PM, Arran said:

 

Are these things full of hitherto unreleased 00 scale models?

[DJ Dangerous]

2 hours ago, Bob229 said:

Marks have 40ft ONE twin pack containers they look weathered, have one on order

Dapol or Hornby?

[leslie10646]

4 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said:

Do you know some trade secret about 22' flats that we don't?

No, DJ, my flats are 20ft. They're under my double beets, so if someone needs one, I remove the body from the double beet kit!

[DJ Dangerous]

15 hours ago, MOGUL said:

A whole crop of Dapol and Hornby containers released this month, some very much of Irish interest

Dapol First:

20ft Evergreens, unweathered and weathered versions available.. Cover a wide period from the 90s onwards, and were very prominent on the Claremorris liner with Bone chip exports from Dawn meats in Ballyhaunis, as well as lots of other liner operations up to the present day IWT

https://www.dapol.co.uk/shop/oo-gauge/wagons-OO-Gauge/oo-gauge-containers/4F-028-055-OO-Gauge-Container-20FT-EISU-75951-5-01151-3

https://www.dapol.co.uk/shop/oo-gauge/wagons-OO-Gauge/oo-gauge-containers/4F-028-056-OO-Gauge-Container-20FT-EISU-75951-5-01151-3-Weathered

40ft mixed pack with 1 Hapag Lloyd and 1 CMA.. Very relevant to IWT liners! Again come in weathered and un-weathered versions.. I got a set in a hattons order(with a nice Mulgrew truck needing light repairs) and they are passable.. Not up to Arrans standards, but a good volume filler as you can never have enough 40ft CMAs(think I have about 8, a mix of dapols and Crail by now)

https://www.dapol.co.uk/shop/oo-gauge/wagons-OO-Gauge/oo-gauge-containers/4F-028-056-OO-Gauge-Container-20FT-EISU-75951-5-01151-3-Weathered

https://www.dapol.co.uk/shop/oo-gauge/wagons-OO-Gauge/oo-gauge-containers/4F-028-107-OO-Gauge-40ft-Ctnr-HC-HAPAG-LLOYD-213247-0-CMA-CGM 522616-6-Weathered

45ft Mixed pack of P&O and Samskip, JACKPOT! Both of these are regulars on the IWT liner, and the Samskip ones sometimes make up 80% of the load on the XPOs(that's 3 boxes!).. Can't find them on Dapol website but Hattons seem to have some.. 

https://www.hattons.co.uk/976915/dapol_4f_028_023_45_ft_container_p_o_ferrymasters_007303_8_samskip_798868_0/stockdetail

https://www.hattons.co.uk/976916/dapol_4f_028_024_45_ft_container_p_o_ferrymasters_007303_8_samskip_798868_0_wthd/stockdetail

 

Hornby have 3 packs

1 of tanktainers x 3, nice models.. Only the Concisa has seen the rails here(IWT liner 2015-2019ish), but the other two are generic enough/hire units that could fit in.. They are a little dear though, going to pass on these and pick up some C-Rails in Raheny instead!

https://uk.hornby.com/products/concisa-tip-hoyer-container-pack-3-x-20-tanktainers-era-11-r60130

1 pack with a 40ft hanjin and a 20ft DAL, Hanjin went bust around 2018 but their containers did appear on liners here(baby food liner from Askeaton notably).. DAL are a niche african carrier, so unlikely much Irish interest in this one.. Again going to pass as I have a Hanjin from Dapol, and they are dear for Hornbys standards at £21 a pack

https://uk.hornby.com/products/dal-hanjin-container-pack-1-x-20-and-1-x-40-containers-era-11-r60128

Another pack with a Genstar 40ft and a CCL 20ft, both more suitable for early 1990s-2000s.. I think Arran has done Genstar, and I know nothing about CCL! Another pass unfortunately!

https://uk.hornby.com/products/ccl-genstar-container-pack-1-x-20-and-1-x-40-containers-era-11-r60127

 

Had a look on @Arran's website, and C-Rail also have some of the above, and some similar models.

There are several 9'6" highcubes instead of the traditional 8'6" height dryboxes which is unfortunate, but after seeeing the Dapol 40' ONE drybox and reefer, and their Mitsui 40' drybox, I'd check the photos very closely before buying Dapol again.

Their blue 45' P&O Ferrymasters boxes are nice, so hopefully the yellow ones will follow suit.

 

Evergreen 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=175

Evergreen 40' x 9'6" (actually shows as out of stock when you add it to your basket) :

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=94

 

Hapag Lloyd 40' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=138

Hapag Lloyd 40' x 9'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=185

 

CMA-CGM 40' x 9'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=152

CMA-CGM 20' reefer:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=96

 

P&O 40' x 9'6 drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=207

P&O Nedloyd 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=136

P&O 40? x 9'6" reefer:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=269

 

Hanjin 40' x 9'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=154

 

Genstar 40' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=169

Genstar 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=160

 

ONE 40' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=225

ONE 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=200

ONE 40' x 9'6" reefer:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=268

ONE 40' x 9'6 drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=192

 

Plus some Irish-ish looking stuff...

 

Freightliner 40' x 8'6 drybox in red and yellow:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=176

Freightliner 40' x 8'6 drybox in red:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=173

Freightliner 20' x 8'6 drybox in red and yellow:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=165

Freightliner 20' x 8'6 drybox in red:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=166

Cronos 40' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=168

Tiphook 40' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=198

Tiphook 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=186

TransAmerica 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=187

Maersk 40' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=256

Maersk 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=257

Maersk 40' x 9'6" reefer:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=170

MOL / MItsui 20' x 8'6" reefer:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=158

Yang Ming 40' x 9'6" reefer:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=95

OOCL 20' x8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=188

CAI 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=93

 

And two of the new releases that tickle my fancy are...

 

MSC "Gold" label brown 40' x 9'6 drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=270

Manchester Liners (newer livery) 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=272

 

@DiveController posted this photo of the Manchester Liners boxes, in what appears to be an older livery:

 

 

 

[MOGUL]

7 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

 

Had a look on @Arran's website, and C-Rail also have some of the above, and some similar models.

There are several 9'6" highcubes instead of the traditional 8'6" height dryboxes which is unfortunate, but after seeeing the Dapol 40' ONE drybox and reefer, and their Mitsui 40' drybox, I'd check the photos very closely before buying Dapol again.

Their blue 45' P&O Ferrymasters boxes are nice, so hopefully the yellow ones will follow suit.

 

Evergreen 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=175

Evergreen 40' x 9'6" (actually shows as out of stock when you add it to your basket) :

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=94

 

Hapag Lloyd 40' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=138

Hapag Lloyd 40' x 9'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=185

 

CMA-CGM 40' x 9'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=152

CMA-CGM 20' reefer:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=96

 

P&O 40' x 9'6 drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=207

P&O Nedloyd 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=136

P&O 40? x 9'6" reefer:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=269

 

Hanjin 40' x 9'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=154

 

Genstar 40' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=169

Genstar 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=160

 

ONE 40' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=225

ONE 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=200

ONE 40' x 9'6" reefer:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=268

ONE 40' x 9'6 drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=192

 

Plus some Irish-ish looking stuff...

 

Freightliner 40' x 8'6 drybox in red and yellow:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=176

Freightliner 40' x 8'6 drybox in red:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=173

Freightliner 20' x 8'6 drybox in red and yellow:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=165

Freightliner 20' x 8'6 drybox in red:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=166

Cronos 40' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=168

Tiphook 40' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=198

Tiphook 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=186

TransAmerica 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=187

Maersk 40' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=256

Maersk 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=257

Maersk 40' x 9'6" reefer:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=170

MOL / MItsui 20' x 8'6" reefer:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=158

Yang Ming 40' x 9'6" reefer:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=95

OOCL 20' x8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=188

CAI 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=93

 

And two of the new releases that tickle my fancy are...

 

MSC "Gold" label brown 40' x 9'6 drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=270

Manchester Liners (newer livery) 20' x 8'6" drybox:

https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=272

 

@DiveController posted this photo of the Manchester Liners boxes, in what appears to be an older livery:

 

 

 

I have a whole curver box full of containers and tanks and normally pick up five or six more C-rails at the Raheny/Blackrock show! Although it's only a small box, and not all the containers I have now fit in it!

I only buy the Dapol ones because they are a bit cheaper, and give variety, so I have 7 different CMAs instead of 7 Crails.. It's a quicker option than buying Arrans and Renumbering! But when you put them side by side, Arrans are head and shoulders above anyone elses, so they are normally the top front box on my stacks!

 

 

12 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said:

Dapol or Hornby?

I think only Dapol do a weathered version, so they are the ones with the fuzzy printing I posted pictures of..

 

Each to their own, but I avoid the weathered versions from Dapol, I think the weathering is more like what you would see on rolling stock(track dirt).. Containers weather differently to rolling stock or trucks, as they are steel exposed to sea water regularly, rust is the main feature of weathering on a container, and also little diamond of black crud where haz labels were/have been removed.. @murphaph recent work is a good example of old/worn containers, but if a driver showed up in Ballina with one of those he'd be told where to go!

 

Edited October 21, 2022 by MOGUL

[DJ Dangerous]

Agreed, @MOGUL, the Dapol ONE and Mitsui / MOL ones were terrible, your photos and comments were spot on.

Took some comparison shots myself just now, Dapol ONE drybox sitting atop a C-Rail ONE drybox, and a Dapol ONE reefer on top of a C-Rail ONE drybox.

Also the Mitsui / MOL 40' where the different layers of printing don't even line up.

The blue Dapol Ferrymasters have better printing, good enough for me, although still not as crisp as Arran's.

Have pre-ordered some yellow ones from Hattons based on the strength of the blue ones.

@Bob229 might do well to cancel that order with Marks if they're the Dapol ones, and order from @Arran instead.

[chris]

ah lads, damn ye. I just went and bought a load now because of you blabbing on about containers

though at the same time, good job on the what ran / didn't on the local network so I can get the right ones.

[Bob229]

14 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said:

Dapol or Hornby?

Dapol  will see how they compare to c-rail containers

[DJ Dangerous]

1 minute ago, Bob229 said:

Dapol  will see how they compare to c-rail containers

 

They're pretty bad, as per the photos above.

[Bob229]

2 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

 

They're pretty bad, as per the photos above.

They don't look great  but too late now at least I have some new containers, ordering from the UK is a hassle 

[Arran]

On 21/10/2022 at 11:32 AM, Bob229 said:

They don't look great  but too late now at least I have some new containers, ordering from the UK is a hassle 

HI All

 

I don't have any problems sending Models to Ireland !!!!      i cant see the Hassell part as ive not picked up on negative feedback due to charges as i do mark them down a little !!!!!!

 

Regards Arran

[DartStation]

19 hours ago, Arran said:

HI All

 

I don't have any problems sending Models to Ireland !!!!      i cant see the Hassell part as ive not picked up on negative feedback due to charges as i do mark them down a little !!!!!!

 

Regards Arran

I buy containers from CRail regularly and there is no issue with them being posted to Ireland - there is no hassle and I have not been hit by any extra custom charges since Brexit, top service from Arran.

 

Thanks

Paul R

Edited October 24, 2022 by DartStation

[Arran]

On 21/10/2022 at 8:49 AM, MOGUL said:

I have a whole curver box full of containers and tanks and normally pick up five or six more C-rails at the Raheny/Blackrock show! Although it's only a small box, and not all the containers I have now fit in it!

I only buy the Dapol ones because they are a bit cheaper, and give variety, so I have 7 different CMAs instead of 7 Crails.. It's a quicker option than buying Arrans and Renumbering! But when you put them side by side, Arrans are head and shoulders above anyone elses, so they are normally the top front box on my stacks!

 

 

I think only Dapol do a weathered version, so they are the ones with the fuzzy printing I posted pictures of..

 

Each to their own, but I avoid the weathered versions from Dapol, I think the weathering is more like what you would see on rolling stock(track dirt).. Containers weather differently to rolling stock or trucks, as they are steel exposed to sea water regularly, rust is the main feature of weathering on a container, and also little diamond of black crud where haz labels were/have been removed.. @murphaph recent work is a good example of old/worn containers, but if a driver showed up in Ballina with one of those he'd be told where to go!

 

HI All

 

ONly their 20ft are a bit cheaper their 2 x 40ft packs £17.50 my 40fts are £7.50 or £8.00 for the new ones .

Dapol and horbey dont do separate locking bars or print the door seals either, they wont do that to save themselves 30p.

Regards Arran

  

 

 

 

 

[Bob229]

3 hours ago, Arran said:

HI All

 

I don't have any problems sending Models to Ireland !!!!      i cant see the Hassell part as ive not picked up on negative feedback due to charges as i do mark them down a little !!!!!!

 

Regards Arran

Hi Arran

It was not an issue with Crail, I was talking about the hassle getting some purchases from UK, items held by customs been sent back to the retailer, having to wait a week or more after paying vat etc before item is delivered, wrong amount of vat due etc.

I have bought containers from you before and they are excellent and will buy again from you

Regards Bob

[irishmail]

3 hours ago, Arran said:

HI All

 

I don't have any problems sending Models to Ireland !!!!      i cant see the Hassell part as ive not picked up on negative feedback due to charges as i do mark them down a little !!!!!!

 

Regards Arran

Do you deduct VAT for posting to Ireland or are you IOSS registered like Hattons?

Thanks.

[popeye]

4 hours ago, Arran said:

HI All

 

ONly their 20ft are a bit cheaper their 2 x 40ft packs £17.50 my 40fts are £7.50 or £8.00 for the new ones .

Dapol and horbey dont do separate locking bars or print the door seals either, they wont do that to save themselves 30p.

Regards Arran

  

 

I got some Dapol 45ft containers the other day and they have separate locking bars but you have to

put them on yourself and it's fiddly cutting them from the sprue and super gluing them on, sometimes

gluing my fingers on too. 

 

 

 

[Arran]

26 minutes ago, irishmail said:

Do you deduct VAT for posting to Ireland or are you IOSS registered like Hattons?

Thanks.

HI 

 

Im Not a vat registered company.

But has been stated you don't seem to be caught for charges the way i've been doing it 

 

Regards Arran

 

 

 

 

[John-r]

Is there a minimum number of containers that keeps customs at bay, as I have not bought anything from the UK since brexit , but have bought from Arran before and I have to say these are the best containers you can get, and I do have a lot of them and need some more.

[Noel]

45 minutes ago, John-r said:

Is there a minimum number of containers that keeps customs at bay, as I have not bought anything from the UK since brexit , but have bought from Arran before and I have to say these are the best containers you can get, and I do have a lot of them and need some more.

Yes its unfortunate for Irish model builders who used to buy specialist bits and bobs from GB.  Hattons are set up for DDP (Delivery Duty Paid) as they are vat registered in Ireland, but that probably wouldn't make fiscal sense for smaller GB based retailers.  Hattons are the only UK supplier I've used since brexit due to DDP and competitive pricing.  Personally we now use amazon.de for household stuff rather than amazon.co.uk, and for model gear German retailers such as modelbahnshoplippe and keiskemper, etc, great for scenics and electronics.  Marks Models being local are good for over the counter, but their online web store seems sadly still stuck in the late 1990s (ie shopping basket not preserved between session, no favourites, no account management, no address book, poor searching and browsing, have to reenter every time you place an order. But I do like to physically call in and inspect some categories of stock, such as scenics, plastic elements, card, glues, paints, etc, which is not quite doable online. Retail is fast vanishing, but its good we still have one good retailer in ROI.

[popeye]

I got 2 Dapol 45ft containers the other day. P & O Ferrymasters yellow & Samskip.

These are Highcube and you need to attach the locking bars yourself.

I have 2 made by Bachmann so I have put them side by side for comparison.

The print on the Dapol ones are very poor. 

The Bachmann ones are on the left.

 

[murphaph]

6 hours ago, popeye said:

I got 2 Dapol 45ft containers the other day. P & O Ferrymasters yellow & Samskip.

These are Highcube and you need to attach the locking bars yourself.

I have 2 made by Bachmann so I have put them side by side for comparison.

The print on the Dapol ones are very poor. 

The Bachmann ones are on the left.

 

I think all 4 are supposed to be hi cubes but clearly one (or both) manufacturer is way off in scale height at least. Could you measure them up maybe? Hi cubes should be 9' 6" right @Arran?

[DJ Dangerous]

Pretty sure that "L" is 45' / 13,7m but "K" is slightly less, 13,6m, under ISO standards. "E" is a 9'6" tall box but "M" is only 9' tall. Also different widths. "E" is less than 2500mm and "M" is greater than 2500mm.

So the three LEG1's should be 45' x 9'6" but the KMG1 should only by 9' tall and a fraction shorter and wider, although probably immeasurable.

 

[Arran]

HI All

 

Bachmann ones were 13.6m X 8'9" high while Dapols are 45ft X 9'6" .

Geest at the time patented the angled front corners which let the container turn within the max on the roads 

 

Regards Arran

[MOGUL]

2 hours ago, Arran said:

HI All

 

Bachmann ones were 13.6m X 8'9" high while Dapols are 45ft X 9'6" .

Geest at the time patented the angled front corners which let the container turn within the max on the roads 

 

Regards Arran

I think BELL might have had some of the earliest 45ft container also.. Bachmann have been flogging their boxes for years as LEG1s for years, when you compare them to the Dapol tooling like that the difference is clear.. Same issue applies to their 20fts, I think they are 8ft 9 or so..

Tis a shame Dapols printing has gone to shit, as it used to be fairly sharp(ECS boxes they did are very good, will stick up pics tomorrow)and they are the only ones with European 45ft HCs tooled up

[MOGUL]

I received 3 books from @iarnrod in the post this morning.. Thanks Noel!

On page 40 of Philip Horton's Locomotives and Recollections I spotted this, quite a small photo so sorry about the orientation but was the best way to get a good quality shot with my phone..

Its a Transamerica spider tank like the one @Arran released a few years back https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=171 on hire to BELL lines, and with a BELL line logo(coincidentally Noels thumbnail!) 

Nice easy container for someone to model with some home brew transfers for their BELL liner to add some variety

[murphaph]

Nice to have the photographic evidence to justify running them. I speculated a little and bought a couple of those ones previously, thinking it was reasonably likely a leasing tanktainer of that era would have made it onto IR. Very nice.

[DJ Dangerous]

Great to see that we'll have 45' Cobelfrets at some stage, but will the print be as bad as the Dapol ONEs and MOLs or as good as the blue Dapol Ferrymasters?

https://www.hattons.co.uk/1008116/dapol_4f_028_025_45_foot_container_hi_cube_cobelfret_pack_of_2_cldu960451_8_960537_1/stockdetail

https://www.hattons.co.uk/1008117/dapol_4f_028_026_45_foot_container_hi_cube_cobelfret_pack_of_2_cldu960451_8_960537_1_weather/stockdetail

[DJ Dangerous]

Anybody got their hands on the Dapol Cobelfret 45' containers, yet?

Be a while before mine get here...

Are they palletwide boxes?

Hard to tell from the images on Hattons, but they look like thay have that 2,5m wide yellow warning line.

They're LEG1's, so should be 13,7m / 45' long x 2,9m / 9'6" tall and less than 2500mm wide.

Palletwides are 2484mm to 2500mm wide, externally?

Or from 2460mm to 2484mm, externally?

Narrow boxes are 2438mm externally?

My understanding of the more common codes is...

First digit:

"L" is 13,7m / 45' long.

"4" is 12,2m / 40' long.

"2" is 6,1m / 20' long.

Second digit:

"E" or "5" is 2,9m / 9'6" tall.

"M" is 2,75m / 9' tall.

"2", "C" or "L" is 2,6m / 8,6 tall.

"E" is 2438mm to 2500mm / 8' to 8,2' wide.

"M" is greater than 2500mm wide.

Where are you when I need you, @MOGUL???

 

 

[MOGUL]

Here’s a few pics of the real deal for you.. I have three packs on pre-order but haven’t got hands on yet..

All their equipment is LEG1 these days or variants thereof, so 45ft PWHC, 9ft 6 high and 2.5m wide.. The dapol tooling is correct for this.. 

Edited December 24, 2022 by MOGUL

[DJ Dangerous]

So are all of the Dapol 45' models 2,5 scale metres wide?

Somebody told me that 2500mm boxes were too wide for Irish railways, hence the use of narrow boxes up there. Is that true?

[Blaine]

2 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said:

So are all of the Dapol 45' models 2,5 scale metres wide?

Somebody told me that 2500mm boxes were too wide for Irish railways, hence the use of narrow boxes up there. Is that true?

Given a Park Royal coach is 2895mm wide - No. Irish Loading Gauge is bigger than the UK

[JasonB]

On 6/12/2022 at 2:20 PM, MOGUL said:

On page 40 of Philip Horton's Locomotives and Recollections I spotted this, quite a small photo so sorry about the orientation but was the best way to get a good quality shot with my phone..

Its a Transamerica spider tank like the one @Arran released a few years back https://shop.c-rail-intermodal.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=72_73&product_id=171 on hire to BELL lines, and with a BELL line logo

Great find. I picked up a couple of these recently, with the slim hope they might have been used here at some stage. Always nice to see something confirmed in print.