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Stephen,

pics of a commission I did a few years ago. To the best of my recollection the Irish Pullmans had both 1st and third class, though I stand to correction on that.

 

Two questions:

Were the four Irish Pullmans first class or third class?

Are the Hornby kitchen cars a good representation of the Irish Pullmans?

Many thanks.

Stephen

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Cheep version here from the railroad range and could probably be improved with some TLC and a paint job in green .

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hornby-R4312-RailRoad-Pullman-Parlour/dp/B000WDRZZI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365771526&sr=8-1&keywords=hornby+pullman

 

The Railroad Pullman is a different bodystyle of coach compared to the Hornby detailed version which may mean it's unsuitable for the Irish version?

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I've seen pics of them when derelict at Naas awaiting their appointment with the scrap man. They were in faded CIE green - but with black ends, as with all coaches painted by CIE. The one thing I can be fairly sure of is that their external appearance was not altered during their lives, so if you do see pics of them at the end of their lives, that's also the way they were before. I can't recall if they had "snails" on them or not. I don't know either what classes of passenger accommodation they had - I must ask He Who Knows (i.e. who travelled in them). I suspect they were all firsts but I'll check and post here whatever I am told.

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Yes, Anthony, I'll check. The ones left (one, perhaps?) on the scrap line in Naas about 1959 was indeed in a very sorry state cosmetically, and broken windows. I think that by that stage they had been out of use for a good while. One would make a nice addition to a layout in 40s or early 50s.

 

Wonder what one would have looked like in black'n'tan! Probably quite well.....

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Your starting to fall into the rivet counter category now Fran.=)) I think there is a help group out there for those people you may even be able to get injections to help you also =))=))=))=))

 

Brendan had a brakevan on the end of a modern liner train last week cleaning the track it was eating at me. I need help!!!

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The Railroad Pullman is a different bodystyle of coach compared to the Hornby detailed version which may mean it's unsuitable for the Irish version?

 

Absolutely right WB well spotted. The thing is it would,nt put some guys off who dont know ,dont care or cant afford the Rolls Royce model.

 

Small question for JNB do you know or have you heard a story about the reclining seats in the pull man,s being used in other stock after they were scrapped ?

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I'm unaware of that, Hidden-agenda. I can't help doubting it - I would imagine seats took up more space in Pullmans than other stock, so re-use of them might have compromised leg room. That said, we are looking at an era when anything that could be re-used, often was. I will make a few enquiries.

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