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11 hours ago, Patrick Davey said:

I thought that too, but I have just checked an old OS map which suggests the siding in Ernie's photos is a short station siding - the line into the airfield would have started behind the photographer, headed north and made an almost complete circuit of the airfield, terminating near the village of Killead - see the attached screenshots.

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Aldergrove 01.jpg

Thanks Patrick was speaking to.my friend Paul.earlier this evening about this. We plan to.update the existing Disused Stations page for this station and the Antrim branch

 After I get a book to the printers and 4 new articles completed by next Friday week!

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1 hour ago, Andy Cundick said:

I hate to say it but its Railcar 16 and i don't think its Donegal the signal for a start(no pun intended) is wrong.I would suggest its Strabane on the rump of the Derry line by the engine shed.Andy.

Yes Andy  you are correct. Checked my files whilst grabbing  my tea. This one isn't uploaded yet. The signal gives the location away, when the Derry line was open it had another arm at the top of the post This is Railcar 14 0n 2 July 1959.

CDRJC 1959-07-02 Strabane. railcar 14  (2).jpg

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Now I have enlarged them.must say well spotted guys. First and last photos are Strabane checking some other Strabane photos in.my collection. Second photo is Donegal Town towards Stranorlar. Still sure it is 18. We can chat more about these new CDR photos on Sunday Colin!

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Sorry definitely Railcar 16,after the fire 18 was rebuilt with smaller front windows this was reversed when she was restored,it can't be 17 as she was gone by then,and neither is it 15 as the clue from the front is a taller vac pipe which is in line with top of the rad core whereas 16s only came up about 2/3rds.Andy 

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On 9/9/2021 at 7:03 AM, Irishswissernie said:

County Donegal Railways today:

Photographer recorded this as Donegal Town but I'm not so sure Railcar 18 , 1July 1959

CDRJC 1959-07-01 Donegal town railcar 18

This is though 24 August 1954

 

 

There seems to be some confusion over the picture of railcar 16 at Strabane. Airfixfan is adamant it is railcar 18, Andy Cundick says it can’t be 18, as 18 has different front windows.

Not being an expert on CDR railcars, I did a bit of research on the subject, and I found the following, but I am open to correction.

Ironically, Airfixfan and Andy are both correct, in a roundabout sort of way.

No 18, as built, was very similar to 16. However, following the fire in 1949, 18 was completely rebuilt with different front windows. The passenger compartment also received different windows. Both these differences made 18 easily recognizable. 18 ran in this condition until preservation.

In 1996, in preservation, 18 was extensively restored to it’s original ‘as built’ condition, which makes it once again look similar to 16. Hence the confusion. Dating of photographs becomes essential for identification of the railcar. In the case of this photograph, since it was taken before closure of the CDR, it has to be No 16.

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18 hours ago, Dhu Varren said:

There seems to be some confusion over the picture of railcar 16 at Strabane. Airfixfan is adamant it is railcar 18, Andy Cundick says it can’t be 18, as 18 has different front windows.

Not being an expert on CDR railcars, I did a bit of research on the subject, and I found the following, but I am open to correction.

Ironically, Airfixfan and Andy are both correct, in a roundabout sort of way.

No 18, as built, was very similar to 16. However, following the fire in 1949, 18 was completely rebuilt with different front windows. The passenger compartment also received different windows. Both these differences made 18 easily recognizable. 18 ran in this condition until preservation.

In 1996, in preservation, 18 was extensively restored to it’s original ‘as built’ condition, which makes it once again look similar to 16. Hence the confusion. Dating of photographs becomes essential for identification of the railcar. In the case of this photograph, since it was taken before closure of the CDR, it has to be No 16.

Tracked some archive photos down of both 16 and 18 down from different sources

 Yes indeed after this task that indeed it is Railcar 16 as suggested. Accurate dating is so important and it took new photos of both railcars from 1948 before 18 went in fire to confirm Andy is correct!

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2 hours ago, Irishswissernie said:

JW Armstrong views today from the Armstrong Railway Photographic Trust. Dublin Heuston and Inchicore shed ca 1950

1165-GSWR class D2 No329 at Kingsbridge station Ireland (JW 

 

329 was a member of the 321 or D2 Class the largest express passenger 4-4-0s used by CIE. The class were basically re-built as new locomotives in the 1920s with new frames, boilers and contemporary styling, the modern looking tender was originally built to run with the 342 or D4 Class mixed traffic 4-4-0 locos introduced during the late 1930s Inchacores last class of 4-4-0 locomotives.

The van on the left looks like an ex MGWR "Butter Wagon", MGWR wagon and non-passenger stock wer3e fitted with distinctive knuckle hinges.

 

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Very smart locos. The Irish 4-4-0 was such a varied phenomenon - and the early 50s was arguably the Indian summer of it all - everything from ancient, spidery GSW types as in Ernie’s lower photo, to the gleaming blue bulk of the GN VS, not to mention the 3’ tanks hammering across south Leitrim……

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7 hours ago, Mayner said:

329 was a member of the 321 or D2 Class the largest express passenger 4-4-0s used by CIE. The class were basically re-built as new locomotives in the 1920s with new frames, boilers and contemporary styling, the modern looking tender was originally built to run with the 342 or D4 Class mixed traffic 4-4-0 locos introduced during the late 1930s Inchacores last class of 4-4-0 locomotives.

The van on the left looks like an ex MGWR "Butter Wagon", MGWR wagon and non-passenger stock wer3e fitted with distinctive knuckle hinges.

 

Tis indeed an ancient "butter wagon" - but actually it's GSWR! It does resemble the Midland ones, though.

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Here is another said to be at Limerick Whitsun 1960 although if it was Whitsun then Spring was incredibly late that year as other photos so annotated show trees etc completely devoid of any leaves. I think the bogie coach number is 962 possibly ex WL&W can anyone identify it. Also what does the M stand for

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