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Back to the LLSR; more from the "catacombs"; in this case, Senior's stuff. This was a visit to Burtonport in 1937, I think. He footplated No. 12 the whole way, and said the track was shockingly bad, especially beyond Letterkenny-hi.

I posted his view from the cab earlier.

The second image, 038, shows what must be a unique view back along the tender.

The excellent live steam model of one of these seen elsewhere on this website earlier - 10 1.4 inch gauge, I think - I can't pass by without commenting that they were never that colour - for modellers; I'm not nit-picking. LLSR green was an extremely dark green.... Fry's model has it wrong too.....











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28 minutes ago, Mike 84C said:

Brilliant photos JHB, your father has done us proud with those photos. Fresh angles on a well known subject. All the Swilly locos were attractive and distinctive. I like the human element and little things like the shovel leaning against a coal pile. Thanks for posting.

Many thanks, Mike. I always think things like that are invaluable for modellers. Once the extension to my own layout is done, I’ll be drawing heavily on such detail, of things just lying around the place….

15 minutes ago, Irishswissernie said:

This L&LSR trespass sign was still in situ at Letterkenny 27 June 1968. The company was still running bus services then .

Is that the paint scheme in use during the railway era.

L&LSR 1968-06-27 Trespass sign, Letterkenny


I doubt if, judging by a small number of pics I’ve seen, which appear to show a dark colour (black?) with letters not picked out at all. 

5 minutes ago, NIR said:

The railway closed before I was born but that was certainly the colour of the Lough Swilly buses at that time.

In the 1968 photo, that’s quite possibly the reason for the sign colour.

The trains had cherry red and white (or cream) carriages WAAY back, but latterly they were the same ordinary wagon grey as the actual wagons. Locos and freight lorries had an extremely dark green.

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On 22/7/2021 at 11:18 PM, bufferstop said:

187 - Dundalk, Newry & Greenore cast iron railway sign

Some poor bollix paid €320 for this classic last week in an auction in Cork. When you add in auctioneers fees and delivery, you're talking well over €400.😳

This is the twentieth example of this sign that I've seen auctioned, someone is pumping them out, mind you it's a masterpiece, compared to this one that's regularly appearing................


Whatever fool paid that deserves precisely what they got - a few kg of cast iron scrap. No sympathy - be informed or don't bid.

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1 hour ago, Galteemore said:

Original 1863 era Dundalk and Greenore sign before the Newry extension. I’d say it was a boundary marker with the GN (or to be precise its D and B J R predecessor). Barrack St Dundalk is my guess. 

Yes, it is indeed a boundary marker and it is Dundalk, as it's with his DNGR pictures. Just didn't know WHERE he had seen it!

They were still keeping the letters on it painted when he saw it!

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I guess the reason the CDR tends to overshadow the Swilly is that things like livery and architecture  are seen as better. Red and cream coaches will outdo grey ones most days, while the Swilly's stations were hardly attractive even on a good day. Add in all the quirky railcars and fine tank engines - plus the fact that the Donegal lasted long enough to be regularly photographed in colour &  it is easy to see why the Swilly tends to play second fiddle in many people's minds.

 If only it had stayed open ten years longer...

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5 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

Wow! That’s some find. Where is it?

Greenore. According to my informant: just outside the golf course where the Greenore-Dundalk line diverged from the Greenore Newry section.

"There is a similar stone out in the estuary at the place called Hamills Pier just beyond Bridge No. 24 after which the Dundalk line turned left out of Greenore at the shore (but I have no idea if it has any initials on it, and, if there were, the tide will have probably wiped them)"

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The CSR lasted until 1960 and tried to run a railway until the end. Unlike the Lough Swillya lot of former CDR rolling stock survived more by accident than design. Have written an article on the CDR from 1960 to 1989 in Narrow Gauge Steam 3 by Kelsey Publishing just out this month.

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