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Mk 3 Coaches for Repainting - Lima vs. Hornby

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Hi All.

I'm thinking of trying to repaint some Mk3 coaches into IE livery.

Why are the Hornby coaches so much shorter than Lima / Silver Fox?

It would be my first time attempting anything like this, so I would like to try some cheap, used ones rather than destroy something expensive.

Which length is more accurate?

Thank you!

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The Hornby shorties are the wrong length. 

The longer coaches from all the companies (Lima, Hornby, Oxford) are more or less the correct length. 

They all have the incorrect doors and some different window configuration. 

My rule of thumb is the easiest ones for dissembling and if they look ok for your layout. 

I went for the full length Hornby version. 

Seen here in action  

 

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The Hornby MK3 "Shorties" were brought to market in a bid to squash more stock on your average layout. The awful tinted windows and of course the length, are the giveaway. The window pane all along the bodyside is a single piece of clear glazing and is just awful. There's nowhere to mask off for window opening, so bang those ladies back on fleabay for an easy life. Have a go on one of them though, then take yer learning onto the correct length coaches. 

The standard foot long-ish Hornby version is a one piece body mould, but if I recall correctly, the glazing is superglue bonded to the interior of the coach and is near impossible to remove without breakages, so you'd have to use liquid masking fluid or similar to respray and save the glazing. 

Best of the lot is the old Lima's, in my humble opinion. It's a softer plastic than the hornby one, so any mods to roof or ends are straightforward, with less threat of personal injury. The Oxford coaches have some serious profile issues with the prototype, so wouldn't advocate that route. 

HTH

Richie

 

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Yeah, echo the above points.     

Eight windows on the Standards is the accurate numbers for IÉ version although the doors won't be accurate as @NIRCLASS80 says-  go for what works on your layout & practice on a Hornby shortie first.

Good luck & look forward to seeing the work!

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Thank you for the replies, and the detailed info.

I suspect that part of Hornby's reasoning was to allow them navigate first radius curves easily, as I'm running them right now and there is massive clearance.

I will practice on them at some stage while collecting longer Mk3's to one day work on.

As I have only a tiny layout, and run first radius curves, the short coaches will probably have a life here either way.

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I've always felt that the Lima model was the one that captured the look and profile best. It is let down like the Hornby  model with the abysmal representation of the corridor connection gangway. The Oxford MK111 as has been said above by Richie is let down by poor profile and the under carriage dimensions are all over the place. However the gangway corridor connector is the best aspect of the model and captures it best of all the models so far released. The Lima can be taken up a level by using Shawplan laserglaze and etched window surrounds.

HTH good luck.

Rich,

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I'm in the process of repainting Jouff mk3 coaches right now. Waiting finish painting them all before applying decals but like mentioned above the hornby rake i which were my first attempt at painting are noticeably shorter

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Wow, some gorgeous looking coaches there Dempsey and Past-Avenue!

 

1 hour ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said:

What brand of paint and colour are you chaps using?  Looks like repainting MK3s is the only way I'll be getting any... (Fran are you listening?)

I went to my mechanic and ordered a can of RAL2011, as things like that are not readily available over here.

Hope to try some repainting on my day off next week.

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Thanks DJ Dangerous 

I used RAL 2011 on the MK3s and RAL 2001 for my super train coaches that my local motor factors were able to mix up but the only problem i had was the nozzle was not great and i used one off another brand to get a finer coat off paint other than that it worked ok .

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On 11/10/2019 at 3:08 PM, DJ Dangerous said:

Wow, some gorgeous looking coaches there Dempsey and Past-Avenue!

 

I went to my mechanic and ordered a can of RAL2011, as things like that are not readily available over here.

Hope to try some repainting on my day off next week.

I used white primer for the lines, satin black and the orange is RAL2011. The decals are from railtec

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