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Just a couple of things I have been doing during lock down. My god the camera is478062064_DieselC2012.thumb.jpg.13d122b2a812eeec397411b9fef8f5a3.jpg1146273293_DieselA7.thumb.jpg.7406f74f57a0593cb2683a3581c890cc.jpgIMG_6650.JPG.a453f430f580b91e0a30452798786113.JPGIMG_6655.JPG.4595579e5de530244060010b614bab57.JPG349185846_DieselC201.thumb.jpg.2ad38d9438a814ffbf32015fb8b767ca.jpg cruel! I hesitated before posting!  They both look better in the flesh! Honest! Can I blame the camera phone?

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Mike , They look brilliant and will ensure rtr models advertised shortly ! 

About an hour ago I added the etched frames to my MV / C class found in a box with a engine shed full of other part built resin, cast whitemetal offerings  - I have 2 silver Fox A class and a white metal one.  couple of Hunslet diesels - one now maroon.  a resin 121  now in orange  and a MIR 111 with broken handrails ...  your efforts put mine to shame you have finished a  two locos and the Sulzer B is coming on well- but looks like a lot of glazing to fit.

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1 hour ago, Mike 84C said:

Just a couple of things I have been doing during lock down. My god the camera is478062064_DieselC2012.thumb.jpg.13d122b2a812eeec397411b9fef8f5a3.jpg1146273293_DieselA7.thumb.jpg.7406f74f57a0593cb2683a3581c890cc.jpgIMG_6650.JPG.a453f430f580b91e0a30452798786113.JPGIMG_6655.JPG.4595579e5de530244060010b614bab57.JPG349185846_DieselC201.thumb.jpg.2ad38d9438a814ffbf32015fb8b767ca.jpg cruel! I hesitated before posting!  They both look better in the flesh! Honest! Can I blame the camera phone?

They look very good. Great job. Enjoy. 

Ps what chassis did you use?

 

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14 minutes ago, Robert Shrives said:

Mike , They look brilliant and will ensure rtr models advertised shortly ! 

About an hour ago I added the etched frames to my MV / C class found in a box with a engine shed full of other part built resin, cast whitemetal offerings  - I have 2 silver Fox A class and a white metal one.  couple of Hunslet diesels - one now maroon.  a resin 121  now in orange  and a MIR 111 with broken handrails ...  your efforts put mine to shame you have finished a  two locos and the Sulzer B is coming on well- but looks like a lot of glazing to fit.

Robert   

Robert I have a couple of sets of MM Handrails, any use to you?

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Noel, the A & Sulzer are on Hornby Deltic chassis the C is on a Hornby  Electro-Diesel cls 73 I believe. All bought on ebay and run well which is fortunate. All have the later enclosed motor, not the pancake one! Thanks for all the likes guys.

Robert, I have started glazing, cutting up Ferro Roche boxes and filing to shape is a dull and boring job! So best man up and crack on. I did wonder if I have overdone the grime but I did use colour photos and filth does seem to be the order of the day in the Crossley era.

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Filth is VERY certainly the thing in the Crossley era - I often wondered if that's why many A and C classes ended up with only the white flash above front cab windows, and no side white band and no "tan" at all!

Your weathering looks superb - just like the real thing.

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10 minutes ago, K801 said:

Love the C class, was the engine room windows plated over when NIR re powered it with a motor out of an MED dmu? lol

It was actually clockwork motors and rubber bands that NIR put in them...........

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A bit more done on the loco front with rubdown logos - but these have reacted to testors dull coat and Humbrol acrylic gloss - If anybody has any of the smaller 101 NIR logos tucked away  and open to reasonable offers I would like to get a second set and the MIR red transfers. 

Flash on 111 makes it looks a bit garish but ok really . Behind ,as I guess are  more across the land, 121 being finished as the rtr model makes final approach and behind 3 A class. 121 is an MIR resin and then two fox A and a white metal Q kits A class- this does need a big motor or a set of jacks as a depot queen.       

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MV chassis pics 438505987_MVchassis101020007.thumb.jpg.04aed10d3601b6b8fa2278f38485836c.jpgSide view - noticed bogie frames not same height - will have to correct ! 

1571357560_MVchassis101020001.thumb.jpg.2e4352533483096343dacb5c3c51fb6a.jpgtop down Hornby 25 weights, IIRC replica cab units 80 and 60 thou plasticard. vero board to link bogies - It would be possible to mess with black bettle and arrange use of a rtr PCB board to support lights etc. being a dino this might happen in the 22nd century !

176521022_MVchassis101020002.thumb.jpg.4f591952838e15ed3d8eed9012ed8d6d.jpgMk1 Bachmann coach with pickups  and SF sideframes, coupler mount for Kaydee 5s- plan anyway.

813208557_MVchassis101020006.thumb.jpg.9257c35dfc30c100b6dc8439d0307eaf.jpg Black bettle as power base , Just see Eion`s cast weight.  lovely job and adds weight low down.   Finish off with matt black and a dust of frame muck.        

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Looks like a nice installation there Whizz, I filed the holes out in the bogie side frames. Not sure it was worth the effort when all is painted black and then weathered to 60's filth style.

  I must become competent at fitting decoders, maybe its my next lockdown challenge! But I have a man near me who is so good at it!

  Fitting Kaydee no5's on locos and rolling stock I find a bit of a problem 'cos the standard no5 mounting arm is not long enough to put the coupler head in line with the buffer faces. I have quite a few packs of std no5's. hey ho!

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20 minutes ago, Mike 84C said:

Looks like a nice installation there Whizz, I filed the holes out in the bogie side frames. Not sure it was worth the effort when all is painted black and then weathered to 60's filth style.

  I must become competent at fitting decoders, maybe its my next lockdown challenge! But I have a man near me who is so good at it!

  Fitting Kaydee no5's on locos and rolling stock I find a bit of a problem 'cos the standard no5 mounting arm is not long enough to put the coupler head in line with the buffer faces. I have quite a few packs of std no5's. hey ho!

The 5 is a trail ok on coaches but having seen DCC have Symbola mounts Might try as they have less to interfere with bogie and offer a NEM mount so can experiment with 18 - 20 couplers.   DCC  seems a veritable minefield, the new 121 comes with a bespoke chip for sound etc yet yards of thread explaining  issues and solutions quite enough to put me off.  I have done the pop the lid and fit chips for others but left the fiddly bits to others, like you I have a man that does at work so if ever tempted (often) for sound fun I know where to go. It does seem that a chip needs fine tuning to user DCC control systems and plug and play may well be a bit  of a yet to happen, the battles of MAC V soft or Beta V VHS still seem to play out in DCC model land.    So good luck.  Hope all well otherwise and apology for a major hyjack of the thread have your green boxes moved on ?

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Robert, you have about summed the DCC quagmire up, two wires plug and play  🤣. Hmm green boxes have moved on Sulzer needs a wash of 60's dare I say filth? and am waiting for some Shell BP transfers for a 11t Planet.  ??? sounded it up for me, bit of a how much moment!!, but it is good when it changes gear up and down with a clunk!

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4 hours ago, Robert Shrives said:

The 5 is a trail ok on coaches but having seen DCC have Symbola mounts Might try as they have less to interfere with bogie and offer a NEM mount so can experiment with 18 - 20 couplers.   DCC  seems a veritable minefield, the new 121 comes with a bespoke chip for sound etc yet yards of thread explaining  issues and solutions quite enough to put me off.  I have done the pop the lid and fit chips for others but left the fiddly bits to others, like you I have a man that does at work so if ever tempted (often) for sound fun I know where to go. It does seem that a chip needs fine tuning to user DCC control systems and plug and play may well be a bit  of a yet to happen, the battles of MAC V soft or Beta V VHS still seem to play out in DCC model land.    So good luck.  Hope all well otherwise and apology for a major hyjack of the thread have your green boxes moved on ?

Robert 

Just pop the cover off the 121 bonnet and plug in the 21pin LokSound decoder and off you go, no tuning or adjustments needed. Some folk may wish to adjust the overall volume but that's easily done by writing a value to CV63 on the test track.

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47 minutes ago, Noel said:

Just pop the cover off the 121 bonnet and plug in the 21pin LokSound decoder and off you go, no tuning or adjustments needed. Some folk may wish to adjust the overall volume but that's easily done by writing a value to CV63 on the test track.

Noel . Indeed but the pages afterwards make it look so complex for some one who does not even have or want a mobile phone and for the last 50 years has had models with two wire dc.  TBH I am sure the 121 is the pinnacle of DCC made easy given how easy to install but on here ( a bit) and on mainstream Rm Web a lot of column inches on chip angst of many other models and chip choice and operation , but guess it is horses for courses. happy modelling regardless as it is a great wide hobby! 

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26 minutes ago, Robert Shrives said:

Noel . Indeed but the pages afterwards make it look so complex for some one who does not even have or want a mobile phone and for the last 50 years has had models with two wire dc.  TBH I am sure the 121 is the pinnacle of DCC made easy given how easy to install but on here ( a bit) and on mainstream Rm Web a lot of column inches on chip angst of many other models and chip choice and operation , but guess it is horses for courses. happy modelling regardless as it is a great wide hobby! 

Robert   

Understand. :)  Think of the loco as a VHS player, the chip is just whatever movie you want to play in it (ie choice of sound and driving characteristics). Personally I think current DCC is technically totally antiquated, there have been incremental improvements but is still not that much different from Hornby's Zero 1 in the late 1970s. DCC is 1970s electronics that has had all manner of clever gubbins taped onto it. But in this day and age things like the need for a programming track, loco addresses, CVs are a bit like asking a modern web developer to design a new web site for a business using assembly language. What I like about DCC is its just two wires to the entire layout, I don't believe in all these unnesseary and wasteful droppers, never used them, never had a problem, fish plates conduct the current reliably and have done for 25 years. I enjoy three main benefits of DCC: Only two wires to track (no block sections nor isolation sections, nor switches), prototypical driving (ie acceleration, braking and stopping), and sound.

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