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I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on which MM models are the most desirable (I'm thinking money is often useless and the only way to get people to part with certain models is to offer them something more desirable to them in return). I'd like to know which MM models I should be keeping my eyes open for in this regard.

For me the interest lies in tippex liveried stuff from the 90s above all else.

Or is it a more even spread simply determined by what we remember mostly from our childhoods?

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37 minutes ago, murphaph said:

I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on which MM models are the most desirable (I'm thinking money is often useless and the only way to get people to part with certain models is to offer them something more desirable to them in return). I'd like to know which MM models I should be keeping my eyes open for in this regard.

For me the interest lies in tippex liveried stuff from the 90s above all else.

Or is it a more even spread simply determined by what we remember mostly from our childhoods?

It varies depending on folks interests, some love the tippex era, others the black'n'tan era, some the 1950s green+silver era.  I cannot comprehend why anybody would pay €350+ for a baby GM model nowadays, these could be readily got for €110-130  only a few years ago. Its a false market, fake value, just like the unfortunates who payed €400 for poor Lima 201s about 8 years ago, now you could not give them away worth at max €50 as a door stop, or layout scenery. Personally tippex is a very attractive looking livery yet a bit modern for my own personal nostalgia memory. In reality I've covered more miles on board CAF mk4 behind 201s than all the years on board laminates, park royals and cravens behind B&T GMs. Personally I find the A class and 201 class prototypes less interesting shapes than the baby GMs and later 071s which had distinctive walkways and cabs. The 201 shape seems about as interesting as a long peat briquette.

Judging by recent eBay sales tippex livery 141, 181s seems the most in demand and fetching the highest prices. I was fortunate to slowly build up a collection of these baby GMs over the years spanning B&T, Supertrain and Tippex. I cannot see a re-run ever happening, perhaps only a refreshed release by MM, or even IRM or perhaps Bachmann who may want to reestablish a small foot hold in the Irish market. 7500 baby GMs were produced in many livery variations, unsure if that would be economic these days. The most unpopular models seem to be the 201s. Not sure why, perhaps it was because MM did a Lima release before their own, or just that the prototype is less appealing and has less nostalgia appeal?

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Probably simple supply and demand.

Models that are more scarce will "seem" more desirable.

The 141's are harder to find these days, so we pay a premium.

The NIR and grey 071's were limited runs (I think) so we pay a premium.

The Intercity 201's were early to sell out so command a premium.

Value is perceived by the buyer.

If an NIR 071 is worth three tippex 071's to a buyer, then they've set the models desirability level at that themselves.

Pretty sure that the NIR 201's were also smaller runs, so we can expect to see them go for crazy money in five years time.

 

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I have to say I was lucky with the Old Ian Allen book shop who remaindered a pile of MM models a while back including  weathered 177.    At Redditch show 4 years ago I got a 201 for £100 - blue NIR loco to go with the lima one .    

Some years before at IA they had the Lima Irish coach packs at silly prices so these sit waiting flush glazing and new wheels on some rainy day in the future.. 

As noted the value of any item is what a person is prepared to pay, ebay in lockdown has seen a lot of inflationary pressures but this ought to be only temporary . 

Bachmann a while distanced themselves from the Murphy models works saying it was all MM owned and originated so unless the tooling etc was sold on it is down to the good gent wanting to court a factory for a re-run. Perhaps when the aging process of the 121s have passed and blood pressure normal... Interesting to know 7500 as the production run. This compares favourably with numbers banded about for current OO production runs but small to the US railroad productions by Kayder.   

Robert

      

  

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