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Well said OB.

We are very fortunate to be living in a golden era for RTR modellers who are served to manufacturers/suppliers who are willing to take the risk with huge financial investment for a very small market.  The models that are scheduled to hit the market in the next few weeks will put a strain on all our budgets but as this recent set of exchanges shows, some of the models won't be on the shelves for long, so, buy them while they are available.

Thanks to all the manufacturers/suppliers (big and small) who have lifted Irish railway modelling to the heights it rightly deserves.

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Would anyone have a photo or other details of the McKenzie & Holland signal cabin that was erected in Westland Row in 1881?  Something that might show the west elevation which I believe was the side with the door and the access stair.

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Thanks Noel.

MM1509 Craven buffet car is not listed on Murphy Models website.  It just lists the MM1508 Snack car.  When was MM1509 released?  Are they the same coach with just a different running numbers?

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Nothing brightens a diorama like lighting.  

Go for it.  Great modelling.

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3 hours ago, spudfan said:

The little Guinness trains that used to run through the cobble streets to the various parts of the Saint James's Gate complex. Happy memories, I can still get that smell as I stood watching them.  Need to increase the size of the layout to get a brewery complex in, complete with internal rail system!

I remember seeing a model of this at the RDS Horse Show maybe 50 years ago.  Anyone else remember that and know where the model is now?

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Another day that shouldn't be let pass unnoticed.  35 years old today.

Truly a golden era for modellers interested in the Irish railway scene.  I'll probably never get to run half of the RTR I buy this year and next, but in years to come I'm sure my grandchildren will sing the praises of those who made specialist Irish kits available and of those who had the wisdom to buy a few for leaner days.  I would take six horsebox kits and maybe more - GSR or D&SER is available.

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On ‎6‎/‎14‎/‎2019 at 6:25 PM, leslie10646 said:

Horseboxes?

Yep, thought of those and of how few I'd sell - they did tend to run singly - except for the RDS Show?

 

Found these two notes about horses being brought to auction in Ballsbridge 1900 and 1905.  So, horse trains all the way from Kildare.

It is an unfortunate fact of railway life that there are many isolated places along the line that have the appearance of being neglected or abandoned by the railway owner.  Such sites are then ‘reclaimed’ by graffiti vandals whose current work only adds to that sense of being neglected or abandoned, that is, depressing places that might be unsafe and best avoided.  It's only a shot step from there to vandalising trains.  The graffiti seem to be mindlessly repetitive words that sometimes seem to be meaningless.  They do nothing for the train passenger experience.  If only that graffiti skill and energy could be harnessed and channelled into something more artful.  Perhaps then the graffiti works might be managed, limited to designated canvases and become something that might "lift the spirits" of train users.  Local authorities around the world are encouraging owners to decorate property in this way.  Some solutions are simple like the services boxes at street junctions around Dublin and others are very challenging like the local authority sponsored derelict wall mural paintings in Philadelphia.  There are many more fine examples of such street art around the world.  And then, 3D pavement art illusions take things to another level.  Perhaps there is a solution in all that?

https://www.muralarts.org/artworks/philly-rowing-2018/

https://www.muralarts.org/artworks/

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=3d+pavement+art&FORM=HDRSC2

Scroll down to ART ON A BIKE

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Many thanks Jhb and no need to apologise.  Replies always welcome.

Good to get feedback on the shape of trains to the west.  Would those you mention have been mainly passenger trains?   Would they have been the Cu na Mara of CIE days?

Sell your duplicates and buy one of these handmade beauties while you still can.  You might even be able to buy some of the duplicates back again in a few years time at a lower price.

Thanks John.  More great information about the transport of livestock on the railway.

Thanks for sharing, great insight into railway operation and especially Leslie's cattle wagons.

On ‎6‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 1:10 PM, leslie10646 said:

This is a bit cheeky, but before I invest a couple of thousand quid I don't have ......

Recent sales have been disappointing (obviously I'm doing something very wrong!), so before I produce another damp squib, may I ask?

My next planned wagon, intended for launch at the Blackrock Exhibition in October, is the 1950 CIE Cattle Wagon. My logic is that now that one can buy a RTR Class J15, folk will need something to pull behind it? So, what did they spend their lives pulling? - endless cattle specials from Fairs the length and breadth of the Republic.  The choice seems logical (with one of my GSWR brakes on the back, or even front and back!). But is it?

Any takers? I can't hold you to any number which you might buy, but it would be useful to know, please!

Maybe, if you're interested, you'd e-mail me, please,  on

lesliemcallister@aol.com

Thanks for your forbearance with me.

Leslie

Photo: Courtesy Jonathan Allan

 

Leslie, great to see this wagon being modelled.  Include me for 6-10 and preferably RTR.  Anyone know if, besides cows and horses (I'm guessing horses)were these wagons used for transporting other livestock?  Also, were there any restrictions about bringing loaded rakes through mainline stations like Westland Row?

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Pre 1957 I have memories of travelling from Harcourt Street to Bray in a compartment coach with massive heavy doors that clicked shut with the sound of an assured safe journey.  Windows could be lowered and raised using a leather strap.  You could stick your head out the window and be sure to collect some soot in your eye.  For a small boy it was an amazing moment to watch men turning the engine on the turntable at the end of our day out.  The railway line is gone and is now part replaced by the Luas and I often use this line too.  So, I sometimes think that I travelled this line as it was in the beginning, is now, and forever shall be, unless some Government Minister brings it to an end.

Link to http://map.geohive.ie/mapviewer.html

Type the Search Address, Heuston Station, Saint John's Road and selected it from the dropdown options

From the menu on the left select Base Information and Mapping.

Scroll down to select Historic Map 25 inch (1888-1913).

The map will change to an earlier view of Kingsbridge Terminus and you can use the Transparency horz. scroll bar below to change from historical to current.

Works a dream for all locations in Ireland.

The Map Library at Trinity College Dublin will photocopy sections of these old maps for you - https://www.tcd.ie/library/map-library/    The National Library of Ireland might also have originals.

Thanks John for the info and for pointing out that photo.  I can see at least 2 others in that.  Following up on your reply and the earlier one from josefstadt I've revisited the NLI image at http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000306673  and I can now see another of the same type.  This one would also be at the approach to a facing righthand turnout.  

Thanks for the great advice.  Have to keep searching now to find a detailed image.

16 hours ago, josefstadt said:

I think that it is the back of a miniature / shunt signal.

Many thanks for that josefstadt.  Makes sense in the context of the old OS map which would suggest a righthand turnout ahead.  I also have a copy of a DW&WR terminus diagram by McKenzie & Holland of Worcester.  These are both of the same timeframe and I wonder now if that would be the maker's name at the bottom of the image.  Unfortunately, other photos don't seem to include it.  Must keep searching.

It was by the south embankment wall just outside Westland Row station.  Sorry about the quality of the image.

Many thanks in advance.

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6 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Couldn’t agree more. A good quality AEC is well overdue. It spans the GNR, UTA, early NIR and CIE between (variously) 1950 and 1974. 

Black roof on the above, rather than grey, also!

Irrespective of my own personal preferences, commercially speaking I think there’s little that would sell better than RTR Jeep, possibly W class, AEC railcar or 80 class railcar.

CIE for me, DCC ready, coach lighting, and easy to open for fitting driver and passengers.

1 hour ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said:

Would the name be printed in Gaelic font?  Is there such  thing?  The web seems to think so, but which one - if the CIE even used such a thing.

It's a refreshing adventure, modelling something unfamiliar and yet not completely 'foreign'...

And there would be other Gaeilge fonts also.

Excellent work.  Wish I could model like that.

The colour in the first photo of these four looks perfect to me.  The profile curvature of the sheets is emphasised and there is a 'grey' balance in the whole model.  I'd be thinking of a light dusting of soot now over everything.  Don't overdo it.  It looks great.

The streaky effect that you have on the sheets on the right looks good to me.