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    • So the big jump in price on both variants over a Class 60 is only because of the pantograph, really. And on top of that, the DC model is technically a DCC Non-Sound model rather than DC, but is configured to permit DC running. That’s pretty innovative. Is this the end of pure DC models from A/S? Will the only options be DCC Non-Sound and DCC Sound, going forward?
    • Following up, I can't find any pics yet, but I can now recall what I did see. The green one at Downpatrick has a small snail and small number on cabside, and a black chassis frame. This is incorrect, and an unfortunate example of how incorrect liveries in preservation can be copied as if they had been accurate. The photo I saw, some sonsiderable time ago, and possibly in Jim O'Dea's photos, shows one with green frames, and a large number, but no snail, on cabside. It cannot have worn this for long. I think we can eliminate G602 from this, referring to above.
    • To answer a few of the questions above.... but first, the list suggests six-wheeler 62M was scrapped in 1964. It actually still exists - that's the one at Whitehead. Yes, ex-Midland six-wheelers were far more numerous at the end of the six-wheel era (the last passenger-carrying ones of this type were withdrawn from public service in 1963). They were considered to be better built and more comfortable - both. Both Inchicore and Broadstone used the very best high quality timber, so build quality was not an issue. Many ex-GNR coaches, though, especially made after 1935, were of decidedly inferior timber. That's one of the reasons many older GNR types survived well into UTA times. Yet, if you look at six-wheel passenger brakes, GSWR types there were more numerous - doubtless because passenger comfort wasn't an issue. The Hattons Genesis range were chosen as they closely resemble several "house styles" the GSWR used. In GSR or CIE livery they fit the bill perfectly - and though the MGWR types outnumbered them vastly, there WERE some ex-GSWR six-wheelers in traffic up to the very early 1960s, i.e. pretty much the end of the "6 wheel era". So, at the end, a typical train of six-wheelers, or mostly of six-wheelers, as might have been used on Youghal summer excursions, but pretty much nowhere else, as the last of the type tended to be sent as secondary stock to Cork - would have had mostly MGWR passenger vehicles and an ex-GSWR passenger brake. Two important takeaway points for modellers. 1. There is not one British design of coach with models made of it, either in RTR or kit form, which resembles closely in design ANYTHING that ran here. The Genesis yokes are a generic design, and happen to reasonably resemble some GSWR types (which is why they were chosen) buit for accuracy, there's really nothing British that even closely fits any Irish line, with the exception of a few LMS types that fit as LMSNCC / UTA equivalents. So, for the era we're talking about, the Genesis stuff was well worth having. An LNER, Great Western or Southern Railway coach in an Irish livery just doesn't cut it. 3D print may well solve this difficulty. In particular, and relevant to the above, MGWR design was so unique that not a solitary thing in Brexitland comes any closer to anything Irish than an ICR looks like a Festiniog Fairlie. 2. On the subject of six-wheelers, we'll have noted that only one type was offered by Hattons in black'n'tan. This raises one point of historical interest, and one of operational interest.  (a) Only about six full vans survived the complete withdrawal of all remaining operational six-wheelers in 1963. They were largely used to carry mail bags on the Galway line for a few years more. Several were withdrawn in 1964/5, so it's exceptionally unlikely they were repainted black'n'tan, but at least three were. I have seen pictures of these being hauled by 121s, and in a train of varying types of laminates as late as 1967, but not afterwards. A single one was only officially withdrawn in 1970, but a photo of it a year earlier has it looking very woebegone - they were certainbly go ne before the forst Dutch and BR vans entered service.  (b) Following on from the above, it is thus incorrect to run a model of a black and tan six-wheel full brake with any green six-wheelers, as the few that got the new livery only did so AFTER the last of the passenger-carrying ones were withdrawn!
    • A good question. I'm unaware of th existence, either now or in the past, of any single definitive list which would give such details, but coaches taken out of public use but retained in traffic for internal or departmental use, were re-numbered in a completely different series, with an "A" suffix, so there should have been something. I would not be confident that of such a thing has survived, its date accuracy would be 100%, because you could have a coach set aside for withdrawal, and actually derelict before official withdrawal, and maybe earmarked for scrap but at the last minute resurrected "sure, that one will do!" as a PW van or somethinbg, with just the seats ripped out. Numbers were unrecognisable. So, suppose you've two ex-MGWR carriages,numbered 36 and 37 by the Midland, then 36M and 37M by the GSR & CIE, these could well become 239A and 442A as depertmental vehicles. All in all, not an easy one to pin down. We can just go by whatever individual examples we know of. 
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