Johannes Houtsma

This is what I am doing. 

On 17/3/2021 at 8:52 PM, Galteemore said:

Lol my wife is from near there! @LARNE CABIN may be able to help...there’s a Facebook group called ‘memories of Larne’ which may offer some help if you ask. 

thanks

On 18/3/2021 at 12:08 AM, LARNE CABIN said:

Hi again Johannes, I know where Drumnagreagh Road is, but I have never seen any pictures of that area. Can I be really cheeky and ask what it is you are looking for? Is it an old dwelling or maybe something to do with Cairncastle? If I find anything I'll let you know.

the thing is I am building a part of the Antrim Coast for my hobbytrain. Ofcourse the coastal route but uphill I saw this road. But I need some picture of the time around 1950-1970. How it did look there. maybe some stonewalls between the lannds or how did the road look. 

near to the coastal road is a hillside. up that hill there is a road as well. I am looking for old pictures of that road around 1950. The road is called: Drumnagreagh Rd

whoa beautifull

8 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Johannes, you ask what colour stations were painted then.

Woodwork was a darkish leaf green an cream, or occasionally darkish leaf green and a very light grey. Doorframes, window frames and doors darker green.

Station nameboards yellow with black letters. Ironwork of gutters same dark green, downpies too. Metal supports for, say, notice boards or station name-boards, black or dark grey usually. Sometimes cream colou with bottom half-metre black.

If you had any small corrugated iron huts at the lineside, these were usually light grey painted, possibly with lack at bottom near ground level.

Thank you for this information. Do you by change also know how the station looked like? how big it was. or do you know were I can get the drawings of this station

20 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Hello Johannes, and welcome.

You ask about authenticity of models for Larne Harbour.

It depends on what period you are modelling. From the mid-1950s, passenger multiple units have monopolised, with locomotives rarer.

General goods traffic ended by 1965, but parcels traffic was retained, sometimes in container wagons, on into the 1980s.

If you want a pre-1950 scenario, the dual narrow gauge track is essential - you don't have to have narrow gauge models, though! Steam engines were supreme. You can amend several British (LMS) prototypes to make a decent approximation of the standard 2.6.4T tanks engines which operated on the line. Equally, an LMS 4.4.0 can approximate, or be amended to, a "U2" class 4.4.0. Few other steam engines were ever seen there after 1950.

Bachmann do several LMS (English) coaches which are very very similar to several NCC prototypes, so steam-hauled carriages won't be a problem. In terms of wagons, Provincial Wagons and SSM do several wagons which might have gone there - an occasional CIE "H" van - VERY occasional - might have worked into there between about 1958 and 1965. Provincial's GNR goods brake van would suit, in extremely dirty condition. Ballast trains and (poetic licence?) the UTA / NIR's "spoil trains" might make an appearance (1967-70).

Other than that, the big challenge is passenger stock. In the 1950s, 60s, 70s and early 80s, the various MPD railcars reigned supreme. There's no way round scratch-building these, as hardly two were alike! Then, from 1974, the 80 class railcars would monopolise all services, with the assistance of the ghastly "Castle Class" sets, until about ten years ago. Nowadays, the CAF railcars - a half-reasonable approximation can be had by a repaint of some British prototypes - don't ask me, as I'm not a "modern railcar person"! But I've seen some models which look very convincing.

The NIR "Hunslet" locos would hardly ever have turned up in Larne, and when they did only with maintenance trains. The same is true of the three NIR "111" (or 071) types.

You could employ another bit of "poetic licence" and have a Hunslet (there's a kit somewhere) with a three-coach push/pull Mk 2 set. The very last time I travelled behind a Hunslet was in the early 1990s with 101 pushing a three-coach Mk 2 set on a suburban all-stops from Central to Lisburn. Such a set could have gone to Larne at that time.

Nothing to stop the odd RPSI train turning up. Maybe a set of RPSI Mk 2s and a "preserved" steam engine?

Hope this is useful.

thank you for this information. it will be around the 1950s. I already have the railtracks from that time and now I am looking for the station-building. How it looked like which colors the station had and so on

On 11/5/2019 at 11:46 AM, LARNE CABIN said:

I have read many times that part of the enjoyment of modelling is the preparation, investigation, design etc. This forum is truly inspirational and as my aim is accuracy and realism in a limited space I have learned a lot from Tony's Omagh Goods Yard, Patrick's GNRI Signal Box and Waiting Shed and later NCC Diorama, Gerry's Diesel Depot and Paul's Galgorm Hall Ballymena Signal Box, these just picked out as four among many.

I have been working on three aspects Larne Harbour, first the baseboard build (Sundeala Board) for my limited alcove space. Track laying experiments in progress, trying to fit a good representation into a limited space.

I have had to shorten the platform length and I have left out the turnout from the main platform road, as including it makes the platform look even shorter. However, I have used poetic licence and included a run round on the sidings so that when I eventually get to operate the layout I can shunt some of Leslie's Brown Vans. I think I have captured the sweeping curve into the station. There is room on left foreground for a bit of Harbour Road and Larne Aluminium Works. Olderfleet Road bridge over track in right foreground.

 

 

After the sweeping curve, the two main defining features are the Signal Box and the Upper Quadrant Platform Starting Signal. I have been working with scale drawings and cardboard cut outs to get an accurate 4mm scale Signal Box and hope to achieve something as good as Paul's Ballymena Signal Box. Most of the base and roof will be from LCUT Creative Materials and the windows from Scale Model Scenery, Lever Frame from Severn Models.

 

 

For the Upper Quadrant Platform Starting Signal, again I have been working from scale drawings I have painstakingly produced, starting point 7ft, 28mm walkway, from a Ratio Kit. Main Post and shunt signal posts will be Balsa Wood Strip, brackets from LCUT Creative, signal posts from Ratio and signal arms from MSE.

 

Other defining features for Larne Harbour would be the distinctive platform canopy and swan neck lamp.

My next piece of work will be to order materials for the signal box and start working on the build for it, so more pictures on progress in a month or so! 

beautiful and now you can really see how it looks like. thank you for sharing

thank you for this information. i am restricted to, so I have to find out how all do it.  and one last question, I hope, which scale is this OO or for me HO? That rum around where was that situated? I got this one yesterday from Alan O'Rourke

On 9/18/2019 at 12:03 PM, LARNE CABIN said:

Hi Johannes, as I started this thread on Larne Harbour Station, I thought I should reply to you. I am working on a model of Larne Harbour Station in the 1970's. My progress is very slow, but I have collected lots of photos and am currently working on the signal cabin. My eventual aim is to produce a compact, but accurate model. If you goggle 'Larne Harbour Mixed Guage' you will find a brilliant photo of the station area in 1936, and there a lot of good photos of around the station area, but mostly 60s and 70s. Hope this helps, and goog luck with your search.

thanks for the info. I found the picture of 1936. so you are working on a model of Larne Harbour Station, my question is: "how much space will it take to build that whole area". An other question:: "how did those locomotives turned there. Is there a turntable? 

dear people. I have a question. I have a model railway but because I live in the Netherlands it is all German. I would love to have the English/Irish railway models, locomotives and so on. I do love Northern Ireland and that's way I would love to have some information about the old larne harbour station. how the railway was situated at the harbour. i already have contact with; http://irishrailarchives.ie/ and they have drawings of the old station. but do I want to have some authentity I need to know how everything was there. Hope you can give me some pictures or other things. sincerely Johannes Houtsma. around 1930 will be my model railway.