228RiverOwenboy

13 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Scumbags. 

IE need snipers to deal with these morons.

Oh for sure! They need a nightwatch/security around that area, and perhaps they'll save a few thousand quid removing the spray-paint off of their fleet...

On 10/7/2022 at 7:42 AM, Wexford70 said:

 

Three Spanish men who spray painted the exteriors of four DART carriages as part of a "misguided artistic endeavour" have each received a suspended prison sentence.

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2022/0708/1309200-grafitti-dart/

Happens nearly all the time! Or at least, it seems like it...

There's a few videos on Youtube of censored vandalists spraying units (particularly the DART units) with paint and ruining them altogether. 

I don't know how, but people are disguising themselves as staff and head into Fairview depot to ruin these hard-working units...

Two months later, and yet nothing else about 224 has been heard of...

If they actually are repairing her, I'm starting to wonder if it's going to take ages like it did with 225...Got damaged in 2010 and was ready to run (no pun intended!) in 2019.

Hello and good afternoon! I have been wanting to make a self-built model for a while, and it is to make any form of Irish rolling stock (or locos/DMUs too!), but I would like some diagrams for reference. I do not mind if it's between the '40s to the mid 2000s, I'd be happy enough to make anything during those years...I cannot find many, as finding them is quite hard.

Thank you.

Example down below:

2 hours ago, Rob said:

It did have a note stuck to it that 'No Parts were to be removed from this loco by order'.....

Oh? I didn't notice that...Perhaps she may be returning to service at some point? 

6 minutes ago, flange lubricator said:

Is it being repaired or is it undergoing a process of component recovery?

Honestly I'm not too sure, she was in the Bogie Shop at the time...

Regardless, it is good to see her being somewhat repaired, right?

Guess who I found in the Inchicore Works during the 2022 Opening Day? 224 herself! She seems to look at bit better now, with her frame straightened...Opposed to her little incident in July 2020

Still needs some work done on her, she's gotten a bit grimy, her engine cover hasn't been properly fitted and a few bits missing. Hopefully she'll be back working hard on the mainline as soon as she's repaired! 

From Buffer to the end of the tender, how long is a GSR 800? 

Hello everyone, and happy 2022. 

I just want to thank everyone for the information given to me, as this really helps me with the current project I have been working on for a while. 

I have just realized that at some point the 201s that were in the Intercity Silver/Green have had their undercarriage painted into a dark grey rather than the former ghost grey. Was the reasoning similar to why the A Class were quickly put into a different livery due to the ghost grey being very vulnerable to dirt?

Here's 218 freshly painted into her current livery, the Intercity Silver/Green. Note that the undercarriage was originally the ghost grey I previously mentioned. (Credit: Brain Solomon)

And then here's 223 the more current dark grey undercarriage rather than a ghost grey... (Credit: unknown)

42 minutes ago, hexagon789 said:

I can check the IRRS Journals later for that information.

 

I'll PM you

Much appreciated, thank you!

Would anyone know the dates of when the entirety (Except 201 herself) of the 201 Class were delivered? Apparently, on the 24th March 1995, 228, 229, 230 and 231 were unloaded on North Wall Quay Extension, 231, 229 were hauled to Inchicore by 157, 228 and 230 were hauled by 143 to Inchicore

4 hours ago, hexagon789 said:

The electrific sliding doors on Mk3 p-p, 4 & D-D stock certainly as the doors are all controlled by the driver. Normal IC Mk3 sets I believe the guard controlled the doors - at least that was the original method, it may have changed when the 201s appeared.

Slam-doors I presume would have been the guards responsibility to ensure they were closed.

 

Yes, can PM you.

Oh, and yes please, I've been looking for blueprints for a long time. Thank you in advance!

Slightly off topic - but would anyone have any diagrams/blueprints of some of the Mark 3 rolling stock, such as the EGV and the Control car? I may model one soon 

14 minutes ago, h gricer said:

Yes wing mirrors were installed on 212 as seen here https://www.facebook.com/groups/1749560248594378/permalink/2591484944401900/

Ah, fantastic! I wonder when these were both installed and removed...

2 hours ago, hexagon789 said:

Yes, definitely.

Well used with Mk4 and D-D sets, I'm guessing also with Mk3 P-Ps given the mirrors on their DTs. Not sure whose responsibility the doors were on normal Mk3 sets but I'm not sure that's relevant.

Ah, so that explains it, the mirrors were used for checking if all the slam-doors rolling stock were closed before departure...Or something like that...

Good evening everyone, I'd like to thank everyone here for providing some crucial information to my ongoing project.

I've just realized something...were mirrors installed on the 201 class? 

Speaking of incidents and accidents, has there been any other situations involved with the 201? I'm aware 225 once derailed in Mayo, 233 had a failed bearing, 224 bent, 230 caught fire, 211 was in the Knockcroghery derailment...And what else? 

Would anyone know what 201 involved in this incident would be? It's a 201 that hauled a Mark 3 set which derailed in Knockcroghery...Any other info about the incident, such as the cause?

On 8/12/2021 at 10:24 PM, Westcorkrailway said:

Between 2006 and now did the class ever get a repaint? I know at some point maybe around 2015 the logos changed from the old IE logo to the new IE logo. Did they get repainted in that period? And also we’re the chassis on the slightly changed livery given a “slate grey chassis” in that repaint. Because if they didn’t the grubbiness looks really clean on the underbodies. And it’s always confused me a bit. 

That actually does remind me, apparently 229 was the last one to have one of the old Intercity logos before it got replaced with the Iarnrod Eireann logo, but I'm not really sure

Anything about 230? I heard she had repairs in 2017 in the shed, and now she's moved out of it into a siding, coupled to an Orange 201

Lovely! I've added the majority of the info onto the script...Now I just need some more technical information about these absolute units; for example, is there any difference between their engine and the 66's.

Thank you all for all of this, it has really helped me with my project.

4 hours ago, Westcorkrailway said:

It does seem a little surreal Dosent it

 

I do love the Intercity livery EXCEPT for the colour of the chassis. Even though weathering made the chassis a more suitable colour very quickly 

Funny enough, the first time I saw one of these in the Intercity Green and Silver livery, I genuinely thought that the chassis' colour was pure black, since it was so dark from the dirt!

10 hours ago, Rob said:

Great idea-  l know l will be in the minority but l am a big fan of anything 201-related!!

I like the fact they are still around hauling passenger trains, aswell as the freight and you can see them 'up close' everyday.

The 201 'yellow faces' began in the orange livery in 2005 and the Green/Silver 'Intercity' livery began (with the same 'yellow faces') in mid 2006.   

Apparently number 214 was the first one to receive it, but I'm not sure if it's true or whatnot

Just now, jhb171achill said:

I’ll check out a few pics and report back if I see anything relevant!

Alright, cheers!

1 minute ago, jhb171achill said:

I think the lights are the same - the left-hand image looks compressed…..

I do apologize for the low quality, as it was the best close-ups I could really find. But there has to be some kind of difference, the light's shape must've been changed a little, since the 201s nowadays have a rounded and smoother shape.

I do have one question, when did the 201s receive their overhauls?

And when did their lights get changed? As I've noticed that they're now more flat and rounded than a few years back when they were square and boxy

2 hours ago, hexagon789 said:

It depends what exactly your looking for, but important to say DO NOT rely on Wikipedia as a source.

A lot of the technical data on the IÉ 201 Class on Wiki is, to be kind, somewhat innacurate.

Power-at-rail is 2,480hp not 2,970

Their maximum speed is 165km/h  (and yes it is km/h and not an even 100mph though that is their maximum in service), that is what they were designed to.

Little things of this nature. 

I would trust the data from the IRRS Journal of the period, provided with data straight from IÉ themselves more than facts from Wikipedia some 25+ years later that anyone can theoretically input.

 

Good luck with your project.

And thank you very much with the technical facts! I'm currently working on a video of the entire history of the 201 Class

1 hour ago, jhb171achill said:

Ah, ok. Do you have the ITG books about diesels? There’s tabular stuff there. For day-to-day alterations, livery changes and info on what’s running and what’s stored, the IRRS or ITG journals would be the best source.

Just ordered one now, I need to get one of these!