Jb1911

Was there many bogie wagons used in Ireland? I know a few, more specifically was there any used on the MGWR, other then the Bretland of course. I’ve read there were single bolster timber wagons aswell. Was wondering if anyone had more information on these? Cheers

Was seen in a good few spots across the midlands to the best of my knowledge

Picture showing the signal boxes older windows which will he what I model. Taken in 1977

That’s fantastic mate . That’s just what I needed. Thanks

There were a good few signals in moate. A couple on the Athlone side and even more on the Mullingar side. Now I’ve sourced a basis for my signals, a peco model, so I’ve that done. Theres a picture up of the inside of the signal box and I’ll attach it here incase it’s of use to anyone. It does show the workings of moates box very well. And then back onto the goods shed. I have a few images to go off and the building has had no major changes in its lifetime but no drawings or numbers which isn’t ideal. You would wonder why there was no standard design at the time. Anyone hardly has drawings of the shed? And while I’m at it has anyone any drawings of the water tower. That’s what I’ll have to tackle next Thanks jhb. I know the type of shed your on about and I don’t think it’s entirely accurate for Moate

The goods shed in moate is a big one. Seriously it’s massive compared to the rest of the station. Used by the golf club now but I can’t think of anything that would represent this building in oo gauge. you can clearly see it’s a unique building so I’d imagine I’ll have to scratch build it? Not having anything to go off is abit dodgy and might not be great in the long term. I was wondering if anyone has even an idea of something that may work for it? On an earlier point about signalling of course there is little representation of the midlands signalling in oo gauge. Don’t you love modelling in Ireland

Ah I see. I must have misinterpreted that but of information Something like this ratio kit of a McKenzie and Holland signal box might be abit better

Thanks. This is a small bit outside of the time frame but having the track plan for things like the sidings is no harm for me anyways. I actually have the track plans needed for moate. Hi mate thanks for getting in touch. I don’t think the foynes signal box is entirely accurate to moates signal box which I have attached a picture of below. However you’ve got me thinking about the signal box I’m assuming that since it has the brick base which implies post civil war but still had the outside ladder which is more from before the civil war, I’m now wondering about the history of the signal box and whether it was overhauled around the time I’m modelling and if it was different in the 1920 or so period. 1915-1925 to be exact. although I have found no real records of any incident happening in the station it does seem quite likely with the incidents that happened during the civil war next door in Streamstown and if some of that carried over to moate. Anything is again appreciated and I’d love the insight of some of the more historically knowledgeable people in the forum. Make my life a lot easier. Thanks in advance jb

Right signals. I’ve found almost no published information on signalling. I know most signal boxes were damaged or destroyed during the civil war and were replaced with the stone/brick base signal boxes. And that most signals were done by McKenzie and Holland. Other then that I haven’t much So the usual then I’m wondering if anyone does? Midland signals around 1915-1925 on the main line. Moate station seems like a good one with all its buildings still fully intact. Apart from some parts of the station but it’s 90% there really. It’s centred between Athlone and Mullingar and near streamstown and Castletown. Goods traffic coming through from the Streamstown - Clara line is another thing I can add with moate. Big market town and a lot of information published from when the surveys were done while the cycle track was being done. Now a lot of that will be the likes of traffic from the 1960s which won’t be ideal however the traffic can’t have changed much.

Perfect this gives me an excuse

Thanks everyone for help and advice. I don’t have as much time as I would like I’m currently I’m quite occupied with exams and I mainly only can do small bits of modelling at a time. I’ve been thinking of modelling one of the smaller stations on the mgwr and I think I might have a look at maybe Moate or Castletown with both being on the Mullingar to Athlone line. I think this would give abit of leverage to me to work with. The J26s hardly worked the line? I think I seen someone say they didn’t but they are branchline engines so I wasn’t sure. I suppose mullingar to Athlone wasn’t really a branchline and I’ve no doubt with the wealth of knowledge on this forum that someone will confirm if they did or didn’t. I’ve tried to find pictures or diagrams of the single bolster timber wagons to no avail. I was wondering if anyone had pictures or diagrams of them. A real driving force for me to model the MGWR was some of its locomotives. In particular the classes Bs and Ls. I like 0-6-0s and in general the Irish classes were different to what you could find across the pond in England. I have a wealth of drawings of most engines however I haven’t been able to get my hands on any real working drawings of the B class. I understand a lot of records have been lost but was wondering if anyone has anything like that it would be greatly appreciate. A man can only dream of a simple solution to the lack of 6 wheel carriages that’s similar to the midland versions. Anyways I’m calling it quits for the night now. Any reply’s are greatly appreciated as always JB

Thanks for the amount of support this quickly the amount of knowledge on this forum is invaluable. I have Ernie shepherds book on the midland and that’s been a great help. But I’ve been wondering about other railway stock and if it would have often been seen on the midland e.g GSWR coaches being interchanged with MGWR ones. Also aside from the obvious cattle trains what types of goods were carried on the MGWR. I’d assume coal and the other basics to run a railway, but I’m just wandering what would have been carried on open wagons and the like. Again thanks for the responses Jb1911

I’m thinking more oo gauge as that’s what I have. It’s not entirely accurate with the scale and that sort of thing but I’m fine with that. Thanks for the suggestions

Hi all. Over the past few months I’ve been researching the old Midland and Great Western railway and I have gathered a lot of information. I’ve decided to model a small mainline station on the railway and I’m wondering about the availability of models from the 1910-1925 odd time period. I’m relatively new to the modelling scene in Ireland and I’m wondering where I can buy models. I’ve never given kit building much thought as it’s never really worked for me in the past (that’s just my fault). I’m just looking for some information on who would sell midland engines and wagons or what British rolling stock and locomotives I could convert to represent their Irish counterparts. All replies welcome- Jb1911