heustonconnolly

I think That some people were saying that 227 228 and 231 would be overhauled and still be enterprise locos but kept in intercity livery with new logos, this didn't happen either

This might happen to 231 but I doubt it, but its a possibility

Some were saying that 227 would not be part of the Enterprise fleet anymore but it emerged from Inchicore in December all painted up. 233 is due aswell. 231 was a late addition to the Enterprise fleet in 2010, there is some doubt will it still be an Enterprise loco. I reckon it will after the economic loss of 230.

 

It's more than just a respray the locos are getting, they are getting a full overhaul with new systems for the DD stock and more comfortable cabs for the drivers, new seats etc.

 

It is odd that none of the locos in the new livery have any branding logos on them at all yet. 209 has escaped Inchicore twice without getting it's EVN applied.

I know they get body overhauls abd new systems but I just said respray because I was in a hurry:)

I thought the locos were resprayed and had body overhauls at inchicore but had to go the York Road to be modified with system to haul the De Dietrich's,

Or is all of this done in inchicore?

I love the whole design of the De Dietrich's, and ya the cab is designed to reflect the cab of a 201

I think the new livery is stunning!

It is a very unique livery on the irish network and will catch passengers eyes, which was intended, the interior also has improved greatly imo, even though the last DD interior was very comfortable, The whole refurbishment project was a great success too, apart from the door failures, but I think (hope)NIR have sorted that out now

Will IE respray 231 into the new livery, is it still an enterprise loco?

And also will the enterprise locomotives be getting the new Enterprise logo or not?

Chat to @Glenderg from here, I know he's done various Connolly buildings in card, he can give you a steer / sell you some cardboard

Thanks,

He said he would give me a kit for. Connolly engine shed, and he said he might help me with parts for the roof over the platforms in spare time in the future, but for now its the engine shed

I will also try metcalfe and scalescenes, thanks lads

Also how would I buils the arches in the walls ,card?

Hi guys

Started laying some track this evening

Could somebody give me some advice on how to build the train shed at connolly over platforms 1 to 4

I have done very little scratch building in the past ,some small stuff alright but I want this to be perfect ?

Thanks bosko

Thanks for the advice, I will try to make it as "real" as possible

You seem to have a lot of spare space in the room that's not devoted to the layout?

 

Which track planning software is that?

Hi David

Theres not really "that" much space, there's just room to walk all the way around it,I know the sections could be a bit wider but the baseboards were built a few years ago so I am trying to build a new layout on it

The software I used is anyrail

Hi lads

I am going to make a model of Connolly Station

The layout is 10x8 ft

The baseboards are complete and some new track arrived today!!

The layout will be DCC

Hi lads

I have changed my mind and I am now going to build a model of Connolly Station

This was my first choice but I thought I would be very hard!

But I will give it a go anyway, new thread soon!

Jhb171achill, the navan branch curves underneath the station, if I continued it on and I came up as the cement brancg the viaduct wouldn't look right with another track a level down so I have decided to leave the cement branch out!

Just finished my first scale drawing of the layout, I have added a diagonal corner piece to the station side

If you don't mind , how can u construct baseboards before you have a scale drawing

 

Note I'd be very cautious about multiple levels in 10 by 8. Gradients need to be at very least 1:50 and preferably 1:75 - 1:100. Even at 1:50 you will need 3.5 metres to get 70 mm clearance ( in my case I'm splitting the gradients over both lines, ie one will go down as the other rises )

 

I would also suggest changing the plan to use 30" minimum radius curves and points or above as a minimum. This will allow better couplings if you so wish and the train formations ,especially with longer modern carriages will look far better.

 

I wouldn't touch timber until you have a worked up scale drawing of all the key components. Trying to fit a design to a baseboard is a terrible situation compared to the other way round.

 

By the way why make the wall sections so thin ? They look about 1'6" , but I could be wrong as u say the plan isn't scaled

 

Since you have so much scenic area , perhaps you could build skeleton baseboards and allow the " countryside" to rise and fall along the distance, I always find layouts where everything is either level or above the rail datum to be very un-prototypical and easily fixed, if building your own baseboards

 

Ps. I'd remove most of the straight track and use nice undulating flexi , the prototype rarely had straight anything , it also lets the track move through the countryside , type of thing. Also if you can try and incorporate transition curves into your design, have a look at Templot , if you feel up to it. It can be configured to emulate PECO and is the only layout designer which I would absolutely believe in regards dimension. It's unfortunately a very steep learning curve however , but you can use it for bits and pieces like laying out transition curves etc, rather then the whole layout

 

Dave

Hi David

You see I already had a layout, but I didn't really like the look of it as it wasn't actually based on any realistic station, so I basically took all the scenery, track,building ect of and riped up the ballast ect, so essentially all I have is a baseboard,.

I kbow trying to make the layout fit the baseboard it hard, the only change I made to the baseboard is the space for the viaduct.

I will definitely have a scale plan in a few days

Oya, the width of the sections is 2ft

Thanks for the advice

Some additional photos of the bridge for you

http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=images&county=LH®no=13620012

 

 

 

I'd take some time to find a workable plan as you may have regrets during the build or after

Thanks for the photos!

I will try to have a plan sometime next week or sooner

I'd echo what David Holman has said in its entirety, in particular the concept of fitting the diagonal. If you infill one of the corners you'll have a super slow radius, ala the real thing, and effectively the station can take up a space of 8 x 6 in one fell swoop. It's actually an inspired idea, and I wouldn't bother me browner filling in the rear roundy roundy bit until you have the time and energy to finish it. Your main priority should be the station it seems. I'll try and sketch something out as soon as.

Thanks alot for taking your time to sketch out your idea, it doesn't have to be to scale or anything, just to get the idea across, but ya I agree with those points!

Its quite a challenge to fit a large main line station into a 10X8. The central operating well and baseboards around the walls with separate scenes with the viaduct, station and coastal scenery is a good idea and help make the layout feel larger than I actually is.

 

It would be worthwhile to add a loop or loops on either side of the main line on the coastal scenic section on the opposite side to the viaduct, this would give you storage space for another couple of trains and add to the operating interest with say the Enterprise overaking a Tara Mines or a suburban train.

 

It might be better to omit the depot buildings as they would block out the view of the station from the operating well and make it difficult to reach the platform lines. Before the Depot was built it was used as a depot for locos used on cement and Tara Mines trains & a maintenance area for bubble cement and gypsum hoppers.

 

It would be very difficult to fit in a workable Navan Branch, but it would be easy enough to add in the cement factory branch into the operating well on the Northern side of the viaduct as a destination for freight trains

It is a good idea to add the loop, I will add that in, I might leave out the depot but leave the yard, but I do like the depot

Seems to me you will need to do a scale drawing [as opposed to your original sketch, as the curves will take up far more room than you think. In 00 scale, I wouldn't go under 24" radius from a visual and operating point of view, though I guess you could get away with 18" radius if you don't mind seeing your trains going round right angled bends. However, even 18" curves means your straight sections will be down to little more than 6' and 4', while remember that even small radius points will be 6" long. In addition, putting platforms on an 18" radius, 90 degree curve will mean clearances between coaches an platform edges will be cavernous.

My suggestion would be to make most of the layout curved [ie no real straight sections], with the tightest radii hidden in cutting/tunnel and platforms on the gentlest radii.

Putting the station almost on a diagonal will increase the length available & because you are only indicating scenery on the other boards, you can afford to make these fairly deep as you will not be reaching over to uncouple. As JHB has said, consider a second level too. Cyril Freezer's booklets [Peco] contain a wealth of ideas, plus there is a series running on double deck layouts in Railway modeller at the moment.

Thanks for the advice David, the base board is nearly finished though!

If the whole layout is 10x8 , the station looks way undersized. I suggest you try laying out the station on one of the PC based layout programs like any rail , scram , trax3 etc. This will force realistic size into the track diagram.

 

Dave

Hi dave

That drawing was only a rough sketch of something similar to what I want, the station will be way bigger in the finished product, I can see where you are coming from though,I plan to do the platform sizes in cad to make them 3-d then I can do a scale computer based drawing do yo know what materials I should use in the bridge

As I said the drawing is a sketch so the platforms would be longer and less Sharpe, I will definitely incorporate the navan branch and the cement factory line, I will have them falling away to a different level behind the platform and emerging as the cement factory line,that was a great idea,anyway this is the first rough sketch of the viaductl

What overall size will the layout be?

The layout will be 10ft long by 8f wide

That would be the best way to go about it, I haven't scratchbuilt any buildings before so I will need all the advice I can get, what materials ect?

I like the idea of the navan line for trains entering and leaving the layout, any tips on the viaduct?

Looks like a great set-up. The GNR main line is particularly interesting with ex-GNR stuff, CIE and UTA (or NIR). Navan branch Taras, Kingscourt gypsum would add to it...

Ya, thats a great idea about the navan branch, I think I will try to in corporate it into the design, I hope to finish the baseboards next week and start laying the track, I will definitely try to incorporate the navan branch

[ATTACH=CONFIG]22022[/ATTACH

These drawings are not to scale so when it is finished the station and Depot will probably look bigger than in my drawings. I have yet to do it to scale.

The boyne viaduct is included in the layout, I will start work in a few weeks and hopefully it will be finished within a year, well I suppose it will never be totally finished as I will always be adding to it!!! I will take any tips ye have!

Just to clarify this is a rough sketch of something I would like, its not to scale or anything as I wasn't thinking about that I was am just trying to get my ideas across, I hope to have a scale plan in a few days or so!

The second DD set is way behind schedule for coming back to service, when will it be back?Probably a good while yet!!