heustonconnolly

227 is in the paintshop. Not sure about 231/233

Is it getting the enterprise livery or is it staying in IC livery with the white logo like the 071s

I belive that 227 is no longer a Enterprising locomotive, dunno about 231

Why not, is it because the locos don't need as much of a break from the strain of hep, but if thats the case they would have dropped tbem from the fleet when the mk3 vans came into service? Why now?

Anybody know about 227 and 231 are they staying in the intercity livery?

Any ways. All that shaped modular seating leaves me cold. A craven interior any day instead thank you.

The craven interior is very comfortable!! But the refurbed DD stock is very modern and very comfortable, its the closest coach to a mk3 still in service if not better imo, I never traveled in cravens when they wer in service, only on specials ect,

Historically yes but not now, mk 3's are gone since 2009. Inchicore has the better facilities but with the refurbishments of the 071 class locos plus keeping nearly 40 locos in service along with the mk4's its relatively busy for the amount of personnel in the works.

From what i can see all the coach related contracts were made in Belfast and were probably tendered on the basis that the work would be done in Belfast. Any movement in this would lead to expensive over runs on the budget.

I understand now:-D, with IE maintaining 40 locos and the overhaul of the 071s, they wouldn't have time to do the refurbishment,they did do all the locos though!

Are 227 and 231 being left in the green intercity livery or are they being dropped from the enterprise fleet?

I know that NIR maintain to coaches and IE maintain the locos, but if they wanted to get if finished as fast as possible they should have let IE refurb at least 1 full set,at least...

I dont see why York Road would have more personal and facilities to refurbish to coaches,remember inchicore has much more experience with coaches than York Road down through the years not refurbishing them but maintenance, NIR always had diesel railcars and not much coaches

So I think inchicore would have as much facilities as York Road?

Jhb171achill, why was all the refurbishment done at York Road why didn't iarnrod eireann do half of it and it would be finished by now?

The branch into Dublin airport would have risen passenger numbets all over the country as alot of buses travel to Dublin airport from intercity routes,although it would probably clog things up more along to line but as you said they could surly add one track a few miles after Connolly or even....

There would be no need to get faster rolling stock if they got the DD's running at 90mph for most of the journey but it gets slowed down everywhere, but passenger numbers are bound to rise when to refurb is finished

Surly passenger numbers will rise when all the DD sets come back!!,apart from the path out of Connolly to enterprise seems to be slowed down everywhere else too

They where on tests on the northern line, but only got up to Dundalk (I think) & not a word said since. There was plans to put on 22000's with the DeDietrichs, because of their speed, comfort & already in use on the northern line because of having correct IÉ & NIR equipment. Tho, trying to imagine the 22000 in the new Enterprise livery is puzzling.

So is there a plan to do an hourly with the 22k's?

NIR were keen to have them, Tony, but this was at a time when IE had other ideas! In particular, to store some, and keep the rest on specific links on the Cork line.

So did NIR want to use them on the enterprise but IE declined? And also if you happen to know, why didn't Ie do some of the refurbishment on the de dietrich coaches, if they had split it,and refurbished some in inchicore it would be done by now!instead of doing them all at York Road?

Outstanding, well done!

Hi

Does anyone here know if irishrail have plans to put mk4 sets on the enterprise to have an hourly service with the DD's. I heard this somewhere here before but I can't remember, I would much rather the DD's though, they are by far! the better coaches

Thanks for that!!!, it was very useful, I just noticed that I hadn't replied to the thread to say thanks!!

As far as I know yes jhb - the free 'stools' will be replaced with proper seats. Think they will still be standard class (going on the direction of the buffet, with the counter towards First Class)

 

Jawfin - the 5pce ICR has first class and catering on board.

 

De Dietrich diagram is as follows:

 

Monday-Saturday:

0800 Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly

1100 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central

1405 Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly

1650 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central

 

Sunday:

0900 Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly

1200 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central

1605 Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly

1900 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central

 

 

5-car ICR is as follows:

 

Monday-Saturday:

0735 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central

1035 Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly

1320 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central

1605 Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly

1900 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central

2115 Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly

 

Sunday:

1000 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central

1305 Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly

1600 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central

1905 Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly

 

 

NIR 3000-class:

 

Monday-Saturday:

0650 Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly (3pce MTO)

0935 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central (3pce MTO)

1235 Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly

1520 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central

1805 Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly

2050 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central

 

Sunday:

1105 Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly

1400 Dublin Connolly - Belfast Central

 

----

An additional 0755 Dundalk - Dublin Connolly runs Monday-Friday as relief to the 0650 ex Belfast

Thanks

Thanks for that!!!, it was very useful, I just noticed that I hadn't replied to the thread to say thanks!!

Thanks for the information it was very helpful, I just looking over the thread and I noticed I hadn't replied!!

Does anybody know which enterprise services are operated by the de dietrich set 9004 on Saturdays, as I dont want to travel on a caf or ICR