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23 minutes ago, Garfield said:

Re. the different ends, a shortage of the pressed metal ends resulted in the variation. It was easier to crack on with a different type rather than delay production. Similar story with the two patterns of doors used, too.

The ex-RPSI example was surveyed as part of the project while it was still located adjacent to the engine shed in Mullingar. I believe it has since been transferred to Maam Cross...

So following the logic of the numbering of the variations being offered.

Packs one in either grey or brown livery in the range 26001-26123 with corrugated ends and flush sided doors, represent the first iteration.

Packs three, in either grey or brown livery in the range 26185 - 26208 with corrugated end and panelled doors, represent the second iteration.

Packs two in either grey or brown livery in the range 26381 - 26487 with cross braced ends and flush sided doors represent the third iteration.  These packs also include a fourth iteration as some of the later wagons had VAC pipes, in model form these are 26405 & 26430 in grey and 26422 in brown. However the latest running number 26487 in brown is not described as having vac pipes, is this correct?

OK, and perhaps I'm missing something but it'not clear to me which variations are contained in each pack and some elaboration on the time frame of each variation would be helpful.

There are two different end panels on these models, can anyone shed light on this, thank you

1 hour ago, jhb171achill said:

1.  I agree there is no model remotely like "Sambo", but I actually doubt it did go to the mills - I think it was confined to Inchicore Works. I'd be interested to know if it definitely did ever go anywhere else.

Hi Jonathan, If Sambo didn't venture beyond Inchicore, where would a loco shunting the sidings at the Nth City Mills have come from? Maybe the Midland yard and if  so do you know what where they using there before diesel?  Additionally which shed would it have been stabled at, Broadstone or Inchicore? Thanks Tom

18 hours ago, dave182 said:

I'm all for rail transport, but the reality is that with the M3, M50, Port Tunnel combo, even with existing road traffic levels, you could do 2 return trips comfortably with an articulated tipper and single driver. Modern road tipper trailers can carry around 25 to 30 tons. 

Probably not intended but with respect, that statement misrepresents the true scale of what is involved.

The planned annual output of the mine is 1.8 increasing to 2.2 million tonnes annually. https://www.boliden.com/49034a/globalassets/operations/exploration/mineral-resources-and-mineral-reserves-pdf/2024/resources-and-reserves-tara-2024-12-31.pdf

That's over 5,000  tonnes or about 160-170 truckloads daily. 

The capacity of the northern line is an issue but not if this ore is moved off peak as has traditionally been the case for freight on main lines.

Does anyone know of an existing model that is any way close to "Sambo". It is highly probable that this loco worked the North City Mills, and ideal for a diorama.

This from Mayner (John Mayner-JMDesigns) would probably fit the bill very nicely but I don't know if he is still producing them.

Hi John, There's no doubt that there has been massive improvement in the road infrastructure, but even that is barely sufficient to keep pace with increasing volumes of traffic as the city grows. I suspect it's been some time since you drove on the M50. If using the existing rail infrastructure was a condition of the original planning permission then that still makes sense today and if  the powers that be have any commonsense when it comes to traffic control then they should be insisting on the use of rail for this freight. 

Nor is this a level paying field, the fact is that the railway would probably loose in any tendering process against road freight because they don't pay for the roads they are pounding. it's the  ordinary motorist that subsides the road freight industry with the disproportionate high levels of road tax they are required to pay.

Tom

Good question for those of us that stick with DC, of which I suspect there are quite a few.

An Art Deco version in Dublin, now a pub and it sits beside a bridge over the railway  It doesn't seem that long ago when there were petrol pumps in front of this building

http://dublinpubs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/porterhouse-north-exterior-1024x665.jpg

Leave aside loyalty points etc.

On a like for like basis the retail price of a three pack of Fitted H vans was 99.99 euro, and today the basic price of a single three pack of Unfitted H vans is advertised as 130.95 euro and that is a 31% increase.on the full retail price. 

While the price of the fitted version is no longer recorded on the Accurascale i website, the full retail price is still recorded on the Mark's website.

1 hour ago, BosKonay said:

Should be all sorted out now 

Wow, 130.95 euro for a three pack. 

In effect a 31% increase on the price of the fitted version I'm stunned.

5 hours ago, Blaine said:

If its not brand new it is 'sold as seen'. Not everyone in the scene is friendly or trustworthy, been proven several times now

'Caveat Emptor'

Which is a terrible shame, in what is a fairly small community

Sale agreed on Irish Rail packs MM4101 and MM4102

IE Intercity packs MM4108 and MM4110 are still available. 

This story fascinates  me;

Interesting pictures. In the first picture the coach behind the loco is a MK2A and in the second picture the first and third coaches are MK2A's.  So the Murphy Models/Bachmann MK2A model which is the only RTR Irish model of this coach ever produced is a must for anyone wishing to complete a train consisting of MK2A/B/C coaches.

Passing through Drumcondra

Sale agreed

50 minutes ago, mfjoc said:

Sorry Fran

I feel exactly the same. I have ordered one Hunslet with sound but I can't justify either an 800 class or ICR as I want my models to operate on my 1980's layout, not sit on a shelf. I too will order at least four C class locos when they eventually appear.

Unfortunately the reality seems to be that a C Class is conditional on the sales of ICRs  Hunlets and 800s and from a business perspective I can understand that. 

So maybe give this a second thought, the Hunslets did run in the '80's.  The 800 is an iconic must have for anyone interested in Irish Railways,and a show piece even in a display case.  And while the ICR is very modern it looks and promises to be fabulous and it seems to me regardless as to the period of a layout, all you have to do is park all those models of older trains out of sight and run a liner freight train and an ICR and bingo it's 2010.

Four twin packs of Bachmann/Murphy Models MK2a coaches (complete set) in mint condition, price 110 euro per pack.  Packs are; 

IR logo, Pack MM4101 (running nos 4101 & 4108, and Pack MM4102 (running nos 4102 & 4110)

IE logo, Pack MM4108 (running nos 4101 & 4108 and Pack MM4110 (running nos 4102 & 4110)

These are complimentary to the MK2b/c coaches produced by IRM,  (Difference is the MK2a features a centre door)

Note these packs are unopened and still in original shrink wrapping.

May be collected or delivered in Dublin. If interested please send me a PM

Pack of three Mk2 coaches in Galway livery, in mint condition 160 euro, located in Dublin. If interested please send PM.

1 hour ago, DJ Dangerous said:

Here ya go, perfect for those Park Royals:

https://silverfoxmodels.co.uk/ir-ie-201-class-c-class-bo-bo-metropolitan-vickers/
 

https://studio-scale-models.com/ACkit.shtml
 

Naah, let's move forward, we've gone beyond that.

Oh Dave, please don't put the kybosh, on a Class C.

I can understand the Hunslet project is a consequence of the release of the NIR MK2 coaches which in turn were a logical extension of the UK Mk2s, and it's wonderful to see a model  of a prototype of which there were only three that didn't circulate widely being offered and selling well. 

That being the case it seems logical that models of items such as the Class C and AEC rail cars which were ubiquitous for a long period of time, would be a standout success regardless as to how much seems to be coming on stream. Both also complement the Park Royals. It also seems to me that what is currently in the pipeline is long promised and there is pent up demand for more. Personally while it's great to see the 800's in that pipeline I would have preferred to have seen that effort applied to the more mundane stuff that was everywhere.

My message to IRM is "bring it on"

19 hours ago, irishmail said:

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/190481-model-rail-baseboards/#comment-5732726

On that basis, their inclusion in the "Services" section of this forum needs to be amended.

Hi Fran, do we have the option of redirecting delivery to say an Irish address? I accept this would mean paying VAT but that may be less expensive.  Thanks Tom