Richard EH

BTW This wee loco would be very light and would not pull you out of bed.

Mine is packed with lead in every space i could find, it will pull a few wagons.

Yep, it'll need all the weight I can pack into it, that's for sure!

Cheers for now.

Richard.

The first one might be 2518 20 ton Guinness Van (Whitehead?)

The second one possibly a GNRI Cattle Van of which Provincial Wagons do excellent kits.

504 is a 20 ton Guinness Grain van, (Whitehead?)

It looks to me as though the first and last photos are of the same wagon(504?).

Bet that cattle wagon had, um, a powerful aroma!

Many thanks for sharing.

Cheers for Now.

Richard.

Just had a quick look at the silver fox website, they do, do the G601 as well with the smaller windows, so that maybe an option at some point in the future as well!

Cheers for now.

Richard.

That's a nice model, have you tried running it yet? What is the motor bogie like?

I have this model but i used a Mashima motor & made my own chassis.

I stuck a piece of plasticard behind the bufferbeam for strength.

Here is a pic & it is painted in DCDR green.It's still not finished.

 

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Looks great Popeye! May well take your advice there, and strengthen the back of the buffer beam, rather than cut it out, that's a great tip!

Cheers for now.

Richard.

Dan (or Tony) Reneghan - retired CIE loco drivers - did an absolutely superb article on the "G" class locos in an IRRS journal in the last year or so. Worth reading - it details which ones worked where. Obviously, they only had a working life of just over ten years, and there were only seven of them, so it's easy to find out. G613 was a regular performer on the Loughrea line for a good few years, and G616 spent much time there too, I think. Not sure about Dundalk, but that article will tell you.

Thanks, yes, that's the article that I have - it's well worth a read as you say for anyone modelling these engines.

Jhb171-senior used to be able to name no more than half a dozen lines like Clifden or Kinsale - which were the ONLY lines he HADN'T been on! He footplated a LLSR 4.8.0 into Burtonport, got to Rathkenny, Draperstown, Castlegregory, Athboy, Glenties, Kenmare, Valentina, Schull, Macroom, Clogher Valley.....to name but a few... he accompanied all three 800s on their trial runs, and did the entire BCDR twice, entirely on footplates...

That's just the stuff that dreams are made of! Superb!

Cheers for Now.

Richard.

New Year, new thread....! Happy New Year to all!

So I thought I'd add all my stuff into one thread in the future, and in the workbench forum as well rather than individual threads in the past as for No.4 and the GNRi ballast plough van.

So here's what santa brought. One of the DC kits 'G611' Class diesels in resin. It has a Steam Era Models 4 wheel chassis, and as you see it here, it's virtually out of the box - all I've done is clean off some of the flash and plonked(technical term...) it on the chassis. Looks very well. First impressions are good, some great detail on the body and chassis. However, some, particularly the front and rear buffer beams are very thin and wouldn't seem suited to take the weight of a train. So I'll probably replace these with plasticard and run the couplings off the motor bogie.

So I'm thinking it should be 614 - this seemed to be based at Dundalk so fits best with my GN interest. I've only a couple of photos of that machine though, notably shunting some GN tenders for scrap with a 141! Does anyone know of any other photos of this machine? I have the recent IRRS journal with the article on the G's in it, as well as most other well known books - 614 seems to be a rare bird, as it didn't seem to appear on the Loughrea branch - plenty of shots of 613/616 as a result...

Anyway, I'll keep the thread updated with progress.

Cheers for now, and a very happy New Year!

Richard.

Some great modelling there. Those W1 vans really are very nice vehicles.

Cheers for Now.

Richard.

Some quality lines there, all! As a relative youngster, I've only managed:

Drogheda - Navan with No.4

Rosslare Pier

Multiple trips in Cravens mid - late 90's, including the Limerick - Rosslare(great days!)

Clonmacnoise and West Offaly Railway

Rooskey Harbour Railway.....(!) - which iirc was someones backgarden in Dromod.....

Cavan and Leitrim - though I hadn't realised it'd closed?

A few trips with 'A'classes in the early 90's.....

Like most I guess, driven the Tralee and Dingle and tried not to get too distracted by the climb to the top and the awesome view.....

The rest will have to live on in my imagination!

Cheers for Now.

Richard.

There is a picture in Desmond Coakham's 'Irish Broad Gauge Carriages' on P94 of NCC number 24 after the rebuild mentioned above, but in UTA green. There is also, on P93 a picture of NCC number 22 in rebuilt form, but still in LMS livery. The kit produced by Ratio for an all 1st coach is almost identical to number 22, and certainly would be a suitable donor for an NCC/UTA version.

The sides for Ratio coaches used to be, and maybe still are, available on their own for cut & shut projects. Just contact Ratio direct.

Thanks for the replies, all! I've a copy of the LMS in Ireland, one of the Midland Railway Ratio kits is added to my birthday list....!

Richard.

Railtec also do wagon transfers and roundels for railcars. You may have to wait though, they're not always in stock.

Richard.

Hi all,

I submitted the text below to New Irish Lines which Alan kindly published in the previous issue, however it's also of interest to this group as well, I'm sure.

The article in NiL in Volume 7, No.3 included a very interesting article on coaches transferred to the NCC. Reference was included to LMS coaches volume 3 by Jenkinson and Essery which includes the diagram numbers and scale drawings for some of the coaches transferred to the NCC as a result of the loss of coaches in the war. I've managed to obtain a copy of this via the interlibrary lending service and it does include some drawings and details of these all third vehicles. The thought occurred that these vehicles would be a straightforward NCC vehicle to model based on the various versions of Airfix/Dapol/Mainline or Hornby LMS coach.

The one that seems to match is Hornby all third R4657 to diagram 1906A (the a appears to refer to whether the compartments were smoking or not so doesn't indicate any particular difference to the bodyshell). Hornby released this model in early 2015 and whilst it is pricey, at £35 - 40 it would appear to be perfect for the role of modelling NCC No's 169, 170, 183-189, 194-197.

A review of 'Diesel Dawn' would appear to indicate that 188 of this batch was rebuilt as MPD trailer 535 and 195 was rebuilt as MPD trailer 536 so they had a long life - there's a couple of photos on page 143 and in colour 173.

Does anyone have any decent photos of these vehicles at any point in their service career from which we can glean a few livery clues? I guess when first transferred it may have been as simple as adding NCC to the LMS, and later they'd have gone into UTA green as part of their career in MED's

Cheers for now.

Richard.

Hi all,

I'll be there sat PM / sunday(though volunteering on the sunday).

Cheers for now.

Richard.

She's working well on that spiral with all those cravens!!

You're in for a treat Nelson, very pleased with my 'U'!

Richard.

Hi all,

Received my 2nd batch OO works (U) class 4-4-0 yesterday. It does look very, very nice - lining, rivet detail and overall impression really captures the look of these locos. Not run it yet before anyone asks, but as my layout is just baseboards at present, that might well be a while....

For those who want to upgrade from the printed nameplates, 247 developments can help with the 'Down' etched plates:

http://www.247developments.co.uk/Irish.html

I'm planning to see if Narrow planet can assist with the beyer peacock plates:

https://narrowplanet.myshopify.com/collections/custom-etched-products/products/npp-219

Even with the right year! If that works, I'll be in touch.

Cheers for now.

Richard.

Hi all,

It's been quite a job to get the lining on the loco, and sealed: As I went through with one line, it was fine, but getting the second line on and sealed was a terrible job..... however, all done now! All it's waiting for now is the Railtec UTA crests on the tanks(on order) and it'll be sorted.....Would I do it again.... better give it a while....!! Very pleased with how it's turned out now though....

Cheers for now

Richard.

Looks excellent to me leslie!

Richard.

This would be nice, please count me in for one in due course!

Many thanks!

Richard.

I've been 3d printing for over five years now, it's developing all the time. It'll get there, the same way other technologies developed in their own time. I really enjoy it, but its' not for everyone at the moment - that's fine, but there are ways to improve and get a smooth finish.

Cheers for now.

Richard.

Hmmn, might have a crack at some printed bits for this - including the roof for the 700. The dome shape on the 600/900 would defeat my 3d design skills!

Richard.

I totally agree with the post downthread that transferring some of the weight from the tender to the loco in the Mike Sharman style is the way to to. From Kirley's photos it looks like that's the intent with the tender/tender coupling arrangement between tender and loco. These locos are exceptionally front heavy - you really do need to make sure that you get the centre of gravity as far back as you can.

An additional point (and one that has been apparent on the OOWorks Adams Radial) is that you also need sufficient space for the leading bogie to move otherwise it has the potential to lift off the front driving wheel too.

So I'd say definitely worth taking it steady and trying to see if you can do any of the above. I'd hasten to add that I've no connection with ooworks other than having one of these lovely looking locos on order - which I can't wait to receive!

Cheers for now.

Richard.

Kieran,

Lovely job! I may well follow your example there in due course. Did you use the Oxford one or Hornby? There might be a few cheaper ones about of the oxford one now.....

I was looking at it for a GNRi T2, but you'd need to chop the front bogie back a little...

Cheers for now.

Richard.

Leslie,

Now those coaches look good! (Well, I would say that wouldn't I!

but......

HOW Good is that!! WOW!! Having had a crack at the GNRi blue livery, and made... well... an ok job of it.... I have to say that is simply superb and I've taken the plunge and have one on order.....

Bit of speculation from me - Looking at how they've designed it, it's very clever and allows them to do the U / UG really easily - they've gone for the side window cab version, so with a separate cab, the earlier version would seem to be a shoe in for a future version...

and the tender was used with other classes well, even a PPs....!

So I really do hope this sells well and that OO Works have a go at what must surely be a popular choice - an S class.....might start saving now :')

Interestingly, mines in batch 2, so sounds like they're going well for them....

Cheers for now.

Richard.

Looking forward to the review Leslie!