StevieB

I have two Cravens in IR/IE livery surplus to requirements, MM1521 and MM1523, £35 each incl P&P, £65 the pair incl P&P.

Stephen

Thanks to all those who helped in my quest re photos.

And now one more request for help.

I have a signalling diagram for the original box when it was situated at the Athlone end of the down platform, IRRS Journal 163 Mayo Line Modernisation.

However, the box was destroyed in 1922 and subsequently rebuilt at the Westport end of the down platform. There were track and signalling alterations in 1937. so does anyone have, or know the whereabouts of, a signalling diagram for the second box, please?

Stephen

I found a short piece in the Irish section of rmweb.co.uk which you may find useful re n gauge modelling of the Irish prototype.

Stephen

I thought that the description of the shortcomings with the IFM bagged cement wagon was very well put - surely no-one can find fault with this?

Stephen

To date, my quest for photos of Manulla Junction pre re-opening has produced five:

Lawrence Marshall (undated) Branch Line Album

HC Casserley (1955) Irish Railways in Pictures MGWR & Irish Railways in the Heyday of Steam

NJ McAdams (1960) Journal of IRRS June 1977

Barry Carse (1975) Rails Through The West

Anon (1985) Wikipeda

Has anyone got details of who holds the copyright of these photos so that I can get copies and also explore whether they have any more of interest.

Also, has anyone come across a book called Railway Stations in County Mayo:| Claremorris, Manulla Junction, Foxford and Ballyhaunis, published by LLC Books in 2010?

Stephen

Referring back to my original question, I have obviously mistaken a 20' container on a 4w flat for a Uniload container, but these photos show that you can only get two Uniloads on a 20' flat. not one. The fixings don't allow for it.

Stephen

Thanks for that. It never fails to amaze me how much information there is out there, and all you have to do is ask.

Stephen

Right, that's one misconception out of the window. So, what's the 20' container that is part of the spray train consist, just a 20' container? When the spray wagons were on their 4w underframes, there were also three 20' containers on 4w underframes, as modelled by IFM.

Stephen

One of the first things to happen as a result of the implementation of the Rail Development Plan by CIE was the introduction of 10' and 20' Uniload containers, presumably for the remaining sundries traffic. I have a number of photos of them in the consist of the Youghal branch freight in the 1970s. Now would they have been the 10' or 20' variety? Irish Freight Models produce both versions, a pair 10's on a 42' 9'' container flat and the 20' on a 20' underframe. Did the 10' variety run singly and on what underframe?

Stephen

It was very disconcerting to find that the thread had just disappeared - a bit like my freeview box which periodically dumps everything recorded without a word of explanation. I agree that things were getting a little out of hand but just a word from admin would have been nice - stops us thinking we're going mad.

Stephen

An AEC has definitely got my vote.

Stephen

As is quite often the case, the discussion has veered some way off the original topic of using a 141 as the basis of a 121.

Stephen

As is quite often the case, the discussion has veered some way off the original topic of using a 141 as the basis of a 121.

Stephen

Locos have been cleared to go all the way to Sligo again.

Stephen

A number of years ago I had the pleasure of seeing Adavoyle in the flesh at its then home above Tony's garage in Shropshire. What a pleasure it was. Irish P4 modelling before P4 had been established.

Stephen

Dave

I agree that that isn't a pocket money price but that's what happens when the market is so small. Taking Richie's point, how do you feel about the weedspray wagons? Are they worth the money?

Stephen

Is the review in New Irish Lines wrong in being complimentary towards the new range of MISR models? I have no direct experience yet of either the IFM or MISR ranges, so have any of the detractors taken up their grievances with either of these manufacturers, or are they just using this site to winge 'cos they can't get finescale models at pocket money prices? Try it yourself and see how you get on.

Stephen

My local model shop, Cheltenham Model Centre, now advertises Murphy Model 071s for sale - only the odd one or two but at last he's got on the bandwagon.

Stephen

A number of manufacturers and retailers use ebay to test the water. I agree that this initiative deserves our full support. It will be interesting to see what the prices are like. Irish modelling is such a small market compared to UK modelling that the prices can't help but be somewhat higher than we would like. Anything we can do to keep prices lower will help.

Stephen

Not that it adds to the question about whether there were four or six GSR pullmans, but Worsley Works do them in 4mm. Anyone tried putting them together?

Stephen

Bearing in mind that the current MM models cover the period post mid 70s, ie modern image, you could suggest most of the models already produced by Irish Freight Models. For what is a very limited market compared to the UK, price will be the governing factor.

Stephen

Two questions:

Were the four Irish Pullmans first class or third class?

Are the Hornby kitchen cars a good representation of the Irish Pullmans?

Many thanks.

Stephen

Were the four Irish Pullmans fitted with the standard Pullman or Irish corridor connections? I would have thought the latter since they ran as individual coaches within train sets rather than as Pullman trains.

Stephen

I've just got my order from Rails, 161SA and 182, both in super train livery. I wasn't quick enough to get of the black and tans before they went, but I'm pleased with what I've got. Rails customer service up to their usual high standard.

My particular interest is in the Cork and Waterford Railway that could have been built in the middle of the 19th century if only.....

As far as I can see, the principal freight flows in the 70s and 80s would have been Bell Line container traffic and the Quigley factory at Ballinacoury. Many years ago there was a good article about Bell Line traffic in the IRRS journal, but to date I can't find too much about Ballinacourty traffic. There were dolomite trains from Thomastown and magnesite/oil traffic to and from Cork. However, when first proposed, there was the possibility of dolomite extraction near to Mallow as well, which would have introduced some interesting extra train. Does anyone have details of the number and timings of trains into/out of Ballinacourty? I know that trains from Cork were empty magnesite and loaded oil, but were the trains to Cork loaded magnesite and empty oil or were they run as separate trains?

Wagons for the dolomite and oil traffic are already available and it is nice to see that our friends at Irish Freight Models are producing magnesite wagons, the first ones being available on eBay.

Many thanks.

Stephen