Junctionmad

I think the issue here is that in practice and for anyone like Noel or me for that matter,  who remembers the orange bubbles, I never saw the chassis in that colour grey, it was always quite dark , so I suspect the issue is between a factory finish colour ( CIE factory finish) and ones memory of the real thing . I cant comment on the grey cause I have no memory of ever seeing that colour, but thats not to say thats what came out of  the factory 

The only one Ive seen of new orange bubbles  is this one and its B&W

2 hours ago, TonyMcGartland said:

Junctionmad, I think you've got a point with the sleepers. I could get birch ply pretty easy and save quite a bit. Also, I'd be using EM tolerances because it would probably run much better than fine scale.

 

When all else fails, theres Peco Code 75!

yes I buy the ply in A4 sheets on eBay, 

I think theres big gap in the options between 21mm at whatever flange way gap , and PECO code 75. Once you move away from 00 , theres a lot of work , and especially so in 21mm as many items cant easily be extended to take the wider axles . Building large amounts  of plain track by hand is fairly soul destroying 

here a picture from the 1976  ( again a link )

nice shiny carriage in possibly near new condition , so is that colour the original ?

thanks Diu Varren , I also unearthed a pic on flickr that was very clear 

Tank filler water 

29 minutes ago, Noel said:

Its too small to make a readable transfer or decal as evidenced by photos.  You could paint a faded white patch to make it look like there is lettering there but doesn't seem worth the hassle given its too small to read without a microscope.  

its about half the size of the main lettering , might be doable , Ill email a few custom decal people 

copy right acknowledged - link only 

Shows BSGV 3183  in 1983  before the tippex livery , Most photos at this time show this kind of Yellow/mustard livery , rather then the more orange later tippex livery, 

Is this correct or a trick of the light , i.e. should I be repainting my Cravens to a far more mustard like colour 

The confusion is hers a picture from 1985 

which is the correct tone ?

thanks

Dave 

as an aside 

can anyone discern from the real thing what the text immediately over the fillers was 

its Has " Tank filler " , followed by something , that I cant resolve in any picture I have 

Dave 

my current costs for hand built  ply sleepered points, with C&L chairs is about 12 euros a point. Nickel slivered rail, This is for 00-SF track, but 21mm would be no different 

The main caution I would advance for 21mm , if done to p4 standards, is the care that must be taken when laying track, thats the issue, I have seen a number of p4 layouts  that struggle to get reliable running 

of course there is no reason why 21mm track cant be built to EM standards , which will then allow rp25/100 wheels to be used ( albeit with extended back to back ) and you get the visuals of 21mm without the precise engineering tolerances required for p4 

I have recently bought A4 sheets if 1,5mm ply and will cut the point timbers using a miniature proxxon table saw, this should save a fair bit of money over the longer run.

dave

just be aware, typically DCC and most pulse based waveforms are usually described in peak-to-peak values and not RMS, which is largely useless for complex waveforms , Sine wave or near sine wave is typically quoted in RMS

Also an unregulated transformer output is typically quoted at full power,  and its peak to peak voltage in general , so a 16VAC 20VA traffo, will be specified to output peak 16 V at a load of 1.25 amps,  The load regulation figure for the transformer will also be quoted and is often in the range 10%-20%, who means that an unloaded 20VA 16VAC traffo, could have a fifth higher voltage on little or no load, ( i.e. 19 VAC or even a bit more in some cases) 

thanks everything helps 

I notice the cab is a frame of plastic beams , was that to emulate the real thing or was there a specific reason ?

and can I ask how you did the louvers on the engine doors, its lovely work 

count me in Des for a kit , took me far to long to do a BSK conversion !!

wow, just wow, its been an ambition of mine to scratch build one of these 07 series. this is a supurb model. personally Im finding it difficult to get a drawing to establish the basic dimensions, I was going to go to DCDR to try and photograph theirs 

im intending to go 

the general feedback from RMweb thread , is 10 thou plasticard is the max that can be cut through  ( measuring the sheet its 0.22mm or closer to 12 thou in reality )

thanks BSGV, if anyone unearths  more pics , it would be great 

being busy and not posting , but just finished converting some old Hornby stock to a CIE BSGV . ( 3177 - 3192 series ) 

happy with the roof detail. I did mill out the window frames to half their original thickness so the glazing would be closer to the outside, I do have the replica railways Mk1 window in fills , so still debating that 

Replica railways B5 bogies, Keen components LMS corridor connections , etc 

The original moulding " is of its time " but still I think it worked out  ( the roof is only loosely on here ) , I created some new under frame detail , and recreated the vacuum cylinder , which is prominent on these designs 

bit of clean up etc still to do . The grill on this side has a error or too , but it actually adds to the realism as in practice the louvers get a bit battered in real life 

Now to screw it up trying to spray paint it !!!!!

as usual, the chaos of my desk 

thanks guys , at least the photos a start , Ill have a  root through the IRRS archives too 

and <facepalm> I have the same book as well.  

dave 

I have a nice method for generating these grills , using a scriber and a x-y table , I think I posted it on my workbench somewhere 

Other then what I have in Doyle and Hirsch , I've no info on the two ambulance carriages CIE created for the knock specials . Has anyone any more info on these unusual vehicles 

thanks 

Dave 

I've used it quite extensively and an currently laying out the clubs proposed O gauge layout in it. It's rather a counter intuitive interface but once you warp your thinking around it, it's a very capable piece of software and results in micro mm precision

The end of regular loco hauled trains must be close. I understand IR would like to remove all 201 locos from high speed running

The "no shunt railway" concept dates back to the Rail Modernisation project, conceived in - I think - 1973, and thus probably reported about then. Unfortunately, its main achievement was the entire closure, on the one day (3.11.75) of the entire Burma Road, Loughrea and Ardee branches, and the North Kerry between Listowel (which wouldn't last much longer) and Ballingrane.....

It had lots of other " achievements " , primarily the spending of considerable sums that arguably were all wasted, unlike private companies , that need to " sweat assets" and who largely modify over time, nationalised industries with access to large , essentially " free" capital, then take Big Bang decisions many of which have huge consequences and often turn out to be wrong but are impossible to retract

Leslie: Hope you follow this up with a model of the ubiquitous 10' Uniload container that were used to carry the bulk of sundries traffic between the late 70s & early 1990s. Most sundries traffic was carried carried in these wagons with door to door delivery by Bedford TK fitted with taillift.

 

Sundries high value goods like cigarettes, spirits, motor parts were packed into caged trollies at the factory or railhead then placed inside the 10' containers,

I remember that setup well in Waterford in the mid- late seventies , delivering cash and carry style goods to small shops. I didn't realise it went on into the 90s , I thought it died out much earlier then that

Weren't those containers lower in height , then the stand TEU

Thanks for the feedback lads , I'll arrange to visit one of these in the next month

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Here is our cement bubble hammering through complex points, both being pulled and pushed and stalled to ensure they stay on the rails on our temporary test track. As you can see, performance was flawless.

 

 

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its a tough day at the office again I see ,

I don't think that there ever was a full Cravens dining car, CIE used the 24xx series of dining cars built a the 50s and 60s.

wasn't that the point of 1522, when CIE withdraw the last of the 24xx series , they converted the 1522 into a kitchen car