SL&NCR Rolling Stock

[Antony]

12 hours ago, Rob R said:

The second sketch looks to me as if it is details for coach No 4?

Yes - Rob you're correct. It is for coach 4.

Here's the sketch for it and the drawing, for completeness.

 

[Antony]

I've made a list of this set of tracings and I can scan any that you may ask for.SLNCR Rolling Stock Diagrams.pdf

[Rob R]

Looking at Antony's list, (thank you Antony) which with the loco's listed and the bogie carriages, must date from 1924 to 1928 a couple of things jump out at me.

First off is that there are only 40 cattle wagons listed whereas they had 70 at closure.

There are 104 vans listed against 43 at closure.

I know there was a clear out in 1954(ish) where 50 wagons went to scrap but I suspect a large number of closed goods vans were rebuilt/renewed as cattle wagons in the 20's and 30's.

I will in due course cross match the running numbers and try to work out which was rebuilt into what or at least where the usable iron work went.

The other bit that jumps out is the horsebox, or rather the lack of one.

[Rob R]

I have changed the thread title as we seem to be encompassing all aspects of the SL&NCR rolling stock.

With that it is probably a good idea to link the New Irish Lines article by Alan O'Rouke on the coaching stock.

New Irish Lines November 2010

[Antony]

Looks like Alan O'Rourke used the same set of drawings that I have. Mine are on linen tracing paper and I suspect they may be tracings by Des Coakham as one has his pencil signature to one side of the vehicle's drawing.

[Antony]

Now here's the horsebox - from an old delicate drawing! I photographed it in 3 parts and merged them in Photoshop. I'd welcome any advice on doing this process and subsequent editing.

 

[airfixfan]

Abthong do you know who has the Des Coakhom photos?

[Rob R]

Antony,

I think you have done very well stitching that together.

Rob

[airfixfan]

On 22/1/2026 at 10:17 PM, Rob R said:

Looking at Antony's list, (thank you Antony) which with the loco's listed and the bogie carriages, must date from 1924 to 1928 a couple of things jump out at me.

First off is that there are only 40 cattle wagons listed whereas they had 70 at closure.

There are 104 vans listed against 43 at closure.

I know there was a clear out in 1954(ish) where 50 wagons went to scrap but I suspect a large number of closed goods vans were rebuilt/renewed as cattle wagons in the 20's and 30's.

I will in due course cross match the running numbers and try to work out which was rebuilt into what or at least where the usable iron work went.

The other bit that jumps out is the horsebox, or rather the lack of one.

Have seem photos of 1954 rolling stock purge at Manorhamiltoon

[Antony]

 

12 hours ago, airfixfan said:

Abthong do you know who has the Des Coakhom photos?

Charles Friel has Des Coakham's photographs.

[airfixfan]

That answers that questuon

 Thanks

[Rob R]

The drawing Antony posted above shows a very different beast to the grounded body to be found outside of the Enniskillen GNR loco shed in the latter years, as suggested in the CIE horsebox thread.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53511876260/