Rob R

Just had a look at the .stl For a first attempt I think I will print it upside down, should get away with supports only on the top where they can be smoothed off and the louvres should print out from the body unsupported. There is a bit of framing across the bottom of the doors that may need supporting Only one way to find out but it won't be soon 'cos the Mars is mothballed while I try to dial in my FDM printers.

I would print it "as is". My resin printer is an Elegoo Mars 2 pro, about three generations old in printer terms and my go to resin is Elegoo water washable transclucent - usually green but other colours are available. For the S scale open wagon pictured below (GNR of england 4 plank) I went through a ton of prints trying to get it to print with a floor and in the end decided that for the sake of a bit of plasticard it was easier to do it floorless. As a bonus, it also sits horizontal to the build plate and reduces the print time. Screen shot of supported model a couple of views of one of my prints being turned into a work of art by Scott Willis And the finished article For your van in 4mm scale I would do the roof seperately, in 3 pieces, 2 end sections and the centre beam, not sure about the best way of doing the canvas roof doors. Axle boxes and springs easy enough to draw and print. Buffers print with steel heads (Gibson? Wizard Models?), W irons - use standard gauge etches but put a set in the W part, angle it out and then bend it staight down at the level of the bottom of the solebar (sorry that would be so much easier with a picture), it is only a mm each side. Brake gear, mixture of printed and commercially available etches. I am looking forward to printing your van in S, Paul Greene will need a dozen or so for Broombridge. Are you UK based? Are you coming to Railex in Aylesbury at the end of the month? If so please come to Trowland and we can have a chat. Cheers Rob

Blessington No. 10?

Somewhere up in the loft I have a selection of Rumfit "OO and EM" axles if you need any more. If you are really desperate I also have some S scale axles which will need shortening............ R

"You want wheels on that loco? That will be an extra £20 per wheel sir. A motor as well? Another £50 sir"

Chris, Have you come across anything detailed about Farland Point or Buncrana in broad gauge days? A long shot I know but I have a penchant for the obscure ( Coleraine Waterside, Magilligan Point, Portumna Bridge etc..) Thanks Rob

Unfortunately, despite being there all weekend with Trowland I never got the chance to have more than just a passing look at Castlefinn

"Imp" and "Elf" were the two ex-DSER Railmotor locos so some thing more obscure is called for I suspect.

Only needs one lot of research to do 4mm and 7mm......

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/336449844845 This one is one of the ex DSER railcar locomotives as converted to an 0-4-0t (Imp and Elf)

C or G for me. Both could be done in a variety of liveries for extra sellability (is that a real word?) and could easily find a home on any small/micro layout. As long as it was designed to be easily converted to scale gauge. Right, where did I put that lottery ticket??

Better too small than too big...

It's a late K's kit. Says on the keeper plate - stylized intertwined K and S logo. I have seen them done up nicely with new under pinnings, fettled boiler fittings and a decent paint job.

On streetview, click on the "see more dates" and you get the option of Oct 2008 with the windows still intact and no clutter in the way. Sorry, my phone isn't playing ball and refuses to let me do a screen shot.

The drawing Antony posted above shows a very different beast to the grounded body to be found outside of the Enniskillen GNR loco shed in the latter years, as suggested in the CIE horsebox thread. https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53511876260/

Antony, I think you have done very well stitching that together. Rob

Going to need a bigger layout...

I have changed the thread title as we seem to be encompassing all aspects of the SL&NCR rolling stock. With that it is probably a good idea to link the New Irish Lines article by Alan O'Rouke on the coaching stock. New Irish Lines November 2010

Looking at Antony's list, (thank you Antony) which with the loco's listed and the bogie carriages, must date from 1924 to 1928 a couple of things jump out at me. First off is that there are only 40 cattle wagons listed whereas they had 70 at closure. There are 104 vans listed against 43 at closure. I know there was a clear out in 1954(ish) where 50 wagons went to scrap but I suspect a large number of closed goods vans were rebuilt/renewed as cattle wagons in the 20's and 30's. I will in due course cross match the running numbers and try to work out which was rebuilt into what or at least where the usable iron work went. The other bit that jumps out is the horsebox, or rather the lack of one.

Thank you once again. The second sketch looks to me as if it is details for coach No 4? Will look on the big screen tomorrow, phone isn't the best place for that sort of work.

Just noticed. The drawing of the High side wagon shows 5 planks. The unidentified wagon to the right of 143 that I posted above shows a 5 plank end whereas almost all the later views of these wagons show 4 wider planks.

The "low sided flat wagon" drawing posted by Antony on my SLNCR wagons thread has a note "No5 Altered to Wigan Doors". The 3 plank dropside ballast wagon drawing is annotated "Wigan Wagons" and the wagon partially visable on the far left of the Brake Van No 1 view appears to have a full length 2 plank dropside door grafted onto it. Could this be No 5? We would be a lot poorer without Ernie and his photos. Thank You.

Antony, Thank you very much. An absolute gold mine. When the dust has settled do you mind if I copy them into a dedicated thread in the resources section so they are easier to find in the future? The SL&NCR is rapidly becoming one of the best documented Irish lines.

They certainly look like someone wanted Vac Fitted (they have Vac Cylinders, not just through pipes) cattle wagons on the cheap. A traditional sized body on a re-purposed, already fitted underframe. No doubt the paper work that would help us identify the thought processes behind this batch went up in smoke back in 1941. Different, would make an interesting model.

Thank you Ernie, Van 100 is a new one for the list and a much better view of 59. The Sparks "Standard Cattle Wagon" drawing shows 2 stanchions per quarter panel as per 59 and 117 but that was going to be part 3..... Please keep them coming. If only we could go back for a day with a digital camera and a flipping great big memory card..............(and batteries!) Mol-PB you have of course spotted the elephant in the room. Sprinks mentions that the number 27 appears on a cattle wagon and a van but here we have a pair of 132 cattle wagons.