Colin R

I wonder if this will affect the OOn3 Donegal vans they do as well?

Looking at the list of locos they made, there were a number that would not have made it onto the big players' production lines. I think, sadly, the people who, a few years ago, would have had cash to burn on these locos are now feeling the heat from living expenses (heating, running a car, etc.), and I doubt there is much left in the modelling kitty right now. I think there have already been at least two other manufacturers that have also stopped trading, and the suggestion is that this is not over yet.

In hindsight (which is a wonderful thing), what was promised hasn't happened, and I doubt it ever will. It is sad to now hear that the number of environmental and charitable groups who supported the withdrawal due to overfishing, etc., are now crying wolf. Can a decent trade negotiation happen again? I think we are stuck with it for now; As both the EU and the UK have their eyes fixed on Russia at the moment, which is most interesting, I could go on a rant about how broke the UK feels right now, but while I agree Brexit has not turned out as good as it could have done, we have almost forgotten the effects of Covid 19 and the amount of damage that it has done to the UK, which is 10 times more than Brexit ever did and how that has now given the UK the problem of supporting more people in the social security system, due to the UK not being in the same place as it was before the pandemic, with a lot fewer working people. You might have guessed that I have given up on the political class in the UK, as none of them appears to understand exactly what needs to be done. On the one hand, you have a bunch which is taxing everyone to death, while on the other side of the coin you have another nasty bunch wanting to remove the safety net from millions of people without helping to create long-term jobs and/or employment for them. I think I had better stop, since I haven't even had a beer yet.

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I think it is down to the amount of red tape currently involved. I think this needs investigating

All I need is a set of these https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/20232-mgwr-convertible-vans/

Must have missed that bit in all the excitement Thanks

I am surprised this hasn't had a reply yet. I think there are a couple of textbooks out there that can certainly help you to get the right, it you want to model the L&LSR then the engine shed at Pennyburn, you need to figure out a way to show the Belfast Trust arrangement. Peco do a trust for its OO gauge carriage shed, which might also be worth looking at. I will have a look at what I have and get back to this thread

It just so happens that I purchased that book, 50 Years of Railway Life by Tatlow, from Leslie, and it is on the list to be read. Colin

Hopefully, like the A class, will they be able to be regauged to 21mm? Colin

So how much is one of those GNR Y5 Vans, and also how much is the GWSR Brake Van (both need to run on 21mm, please) Colin Hi Ernie Do you happen to have any more information about this one, please?

Some very interesting information; it makes you wonder whether, if it had happened, the 3ft gauge conversion would have taken place. I like the idea of the railway heading for Kinsale, which opens up yet another can of worms. Would it have been taken over by the Cork, Bandon and South Coast Railway? And if so, would they have kept two stations in Cork? I would suggest that if the line had have been built, we might be looking at something like 26+miles of 5 ft 3 in gauge railway from Cork to Kinsale. I wonder what sort of passenger numbers it would have generated.

While I am more into the 3ft gauge version, I should say that anything to do with the Broad gauge days I also find interesting. Of all the railways in Ireland, I find it sad that the CB&PR as a whole has not had that much information published about it.

Like Martin, there are some fabulous books in that lot. I only have two problems with them: one, a lack of cash and two, a lack of space right now; other than that, I would be filling my boots by now.

Thanks for the updates about the livery. Out of interest, did any of the other coaches you mentioned survive into preservation?