Those of us who frequented the streets of Dublin and Cork when U2* were a pub support group in the Baggot Inn in Dublin will remember the much-unlined "desert sand" or "Dunduckety Mud" bus livery. The CIE logos on them all were originally tan surround with black lettering, but even navy blue had appeared on some, or deep red, white, black.... by the time this livery ended. So, a bus modeller has a whole rainbow to choose from in logos.
( * the band, not the 4.4.0!)
As for the railway, things were thankfully more standardised, as follows:
LOCOMOTIVES
In black'n'tan and "supertrain" (1972-87) liveries, the loco logo (tongue-twister?) was always white letters with tan surround, no matter what it was applied to. In all these liveries, the logo was always against a black background. There was a single exception: the Illinois-applied version on the newly delivered 071s, which differed in details. First, it was all white. Secondly, the lettering was a different font. Thirdly, the "broken wheel" was larger, and the eight "pieces" were thinner. All 071s received standard issue on first repaint.
PASSENGER STOCK
CIE and ex-GNR railcars of AEC and BUT origin had roundels on power card. These had white lettering and black surrounds. Standard passenger stock never had logos at all.
GOODS STOCK
This is where there was a little bit of variety.
On all brown painted stock (post 1969 or so), without exception, logos were always all-white. But on grey stock it was different. As older stock was repainted with "snails" replaced, all-white logos were used, including on all open wagons of wooden construction. The corrugated Bullied opens (the "beet trucks") no logos of any type were ever applied. Once they started churning out the H vans in the lighter post-1960 grey, the logos were tan surround, white letters, as on locomotives. The same applied to 4-wheel "pallet vans" repainted in the sixties.
One often sees all-white logos on model grey goods stock, but on account of the vast majority of vehicles in traffic being H vans in those days, the majority of logos seen by the trainspotter were tan "wheel" surrounding white letters.
Grey cattle wagons (the last of which survived until 1975) had all-white logos.
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Those of us who frequented the streets of Dublin and Cork when U2* were a pub support group in the Baggot Inn in Dublin will remember the much-unlined "desert sand" or "Dunduckety Mud" bus livery. The CIE logos on them all were originally tan surround with black lettering, but even navy blue had appeared on some, or deep red, white, black.... by the time this livery ended. So, a bus modeller has a whole rainbow to choose from in logos.
( * the band, not the 4.4.0!)
As for the railway, things were thankfully more standardised, as follows:
LOCOMOTIVES
In black'n'tan and "supertrain" (1972-87) liveries, the loco logo (tongue-twister?) was always white letters with tan surround, no matter what it was applied to. In all these liveries, the logo was always against a black background. There was a single exception: the Illinois-applied version on the newly delivered 071s, which differed in details. First, it was all white. Secondly, the lettering was a different font. Thirdly, the "broken wheel" was larger, and the eight "pieces" were thinner. All 071s received standard issue on first repaint.
PASSENGER STOCK
CIE and ex-GNR railcars of AEC and BUT origin had roundels on power card. These had white lettering and black surrounds. Standard passenger stock never had logos at all.
GOODS STOCK
This is where there was a little bit of variety.
On all brown painted stock (post 1969 or so), without exception, logos were always all-white. But on grey stock it was different. As older stock was repainted with "snails" replaced, all-white logos were used, including on all open wagons of wooden construction. The corrugated Bullied opens (the "beet trucks") no logos of any type were ever applied. Once they started churning out the H vans in the lighter post-1960 grey, the logos were tan surround, white letters, as on locomotives. The same applied to 4-wheel "pallet vans" repainted in the sixties.
One often sees all-white logos on model grey goods stock, but on account of the vast majority of vehicles in traffic being H vans in those days, the majority of logos seen by the trainspotter were tan "wheel" surrounding white letters.
Grey cattle wagons (the last of which survived until 1975) had all-white logos.
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