ShaneC

Selling a Murphy Models' Class 201 (MM0209), Couldn't get it to post in the ads section here:

https://www.adverts.ie/toy-cars-trains-boats-planes/murphy-models-class-201-nir-livery-mm0209-oo-scale/23939468

Tried a few combinations of settings in-case it was something of my doing but keep getting this error ^^ Any help appreciated

3 hours ago, David Holman said:

With laser scanning and 3D printing, all you need to do is track the lady down and ask her if she is willing to have a model figure made from her. Might be getting on a bit by now though....

Today in cool but somewhat creepy tech - there's actually a machine-learning algo / application that can generate a full 3D model of any person from only a single picture (no scanning required!):

https://github.com/facebookresearch/pifuhd

Their revenue for the Hibernian was down nearly 30% in 2019 vs. 2018 even before Covid their filings show, seems like they were running out of Americans willing to fork over €1-2K a night. An interesting concept but I think Ireland is simply too small for 3-6 day trips to work - these sorts of things are best if the train is on the move constantly, only stopping for excursions.

On 4/4/2021 at 9:45 PM, Irishswissernie said:

This view of Inspection Car No 2 in 1961 at Kildare I uploaded a couple of days ago has gone down well on Flickr. Its been picked up by the International Group 'In Explore' and now has over 6000 hits and 112 favourites.

I particularly like the leather plush seats and what appears to be a starting handle on the front! I wonder what happened to it. Might have to persuade Alan to build me one.

 

 

That looks a great little thing - do you know was it self-propelled like the current iteration or was it loco-pushed?

A good amount of them is probably web crawlers that emulate real users - the automated checking of new/updated pages by various search engines etc. in order to generate search results . Since a forum has so much content / pages you can often get multiple services each crawling multiple pages at once.

Then there's the real people who just find a single post in search results that solves whatever they were searching for and then leave straight away.

Enterprise catering in first is still real good - though not included in the fare as with many UK services. All that's included is the tea/coffee. One of my last travels before the pandemic hit - better burger than you'd get in many burger places: 

Seems the difference between it and Citygold is they use a different catering company, IR taking the cheaper tender offer vs. the better food quality / service.

Hey, sorry to bump such an old thread.

Wondering if you came across any concrete information on the colour scheme of Hibernia in your research @murrayec as personally I've found different sources to be conflicting.. There's at least 3 contenders:

• Contemporary illustrations & Fry's model use a dark green body & red running plates but I've found no sources for any locomotives of this time in Ireland having the red plates, seems like the other D&KR locos had green plates.
• A newspaper snippet that's not dated but supposedly from the 1850s, saying the body was unpainted and the running plate, a muted green.
• A crude drawing from the 1890s showing the locomotive as being painted olive green all over.

I've not been able to get at some resources due to the lockdown though so grateful if you have any insight to give me!

For anyone else who may be looking for this in future, I've finally come across a plan of the original station ( as published in The Engineer, 18/08/1893 )

Rapido have a whole bunch of videos posted of their factories over the years - well worth a watch to see what goes into these models:

1 hour ago, DJ Dangerous said:

Not disagreeing with you, but the bottom line is that there would be no high quality ready to run models at affordable prices if weren't exploiting somebody, somewhere.

Don't want to get into this again but just saying - not all models are produced in China or the Far-East and the final product ends up costing about the same, maybe it's the margins that take the hit.

On another note though - the Chinese region/city most model train factories are located in has some of the highest safety regulations and wages in the country, so it's not like they're being produced in sweatshops. Rapido said in 2018 (when they moved their factory elsewhere for these exact reasons..) that the wages they were paying to the workers there were close to on-par what they'd have to pay to workers in the US, though Chinese workers on average work more hours and have crazy levels of productivity / efficiency.

1 hour ago, murphaph said:

These are brass kits, requiring soldering together Shane.

Thanks, sorry should have read up 

Are you 3D printing these?

Seems a lot of the really good results is people using the colourising algos to get a rough idea of the colours of the different componnets of the image and then essentially manually painting/editing those in with the same colours in a way that looks more realistic. So most of the real good ones have some amount of creative liberty going on.

I've found doing a few things increases the chance of a good colourisation:

• Split the image out in multiple parts (ie. mask out everything but the train & everything except the train), colourise both images then merge them back together - this is really time consuming but often produces much better results as different lighting in a scene (a matte background vs. a reflective train) confuses the algos.
• There's two popular trained models that nearly all sites and software use for this conversion, one was trained on 11.5k 512x512px images and the other on 55k 1024x1024px images.
  Models always do marginally better on images the exact size they were trained on, so if you can crop or upscale to those sizes, you'll get better results.
• 80% of the images come out way under saturated so drag them into Photoshop or Photopea (free online PS alternative) and crank the saturation way up.

Spent a good while looking through your page yesterday @Westcorkrailway thanks for all your efforts! Some great results there

So I sampled a bunch of the clearest images I could find there in Photoshop and no RAL matches but Pantone 375 C looks like a perfect match if ordering a custom mixed paint is an option for you @RobertRoche

Was going to ask this myself  That green looks really close, thanks for the info, going to have to try and re-create it.

14 hours ago, Westcorkrailway said:

If i ever get around to the bandon tank (by the way if you know anyone who would be willing to contract to making the kit pm me) it will be in black as is number 90. Didnt wear it for very long but i like the livery.

I was looking at the 00 works model ages ago but because how early it was withdrawn i was put off......however the pre grouping livery is making me have second thaughts

 

Picture of Kinsale station circa 1900. CBSCR white pannels are eveident

And through the magic of AI; You can get from this, a rough idea of what it would have looked like in colour:

3 hours ago, Billycan said:

Don't have any of Dargan's working drawings, plans or maps.  

Might be worth checking to see if there is anything with the folks at Trinity College's Glucksman Map Library   

Glucksman Map Library - The Library of Trinity College Dublin - Trinity College Dublin (tcd.ie)

 

For images and references

K A Murray wrote Ireland's First Railway and on page 114 there's a view of the front Facade and on page 225 there is a plan diagram of the two span building.

 

You can also see the facade at

1834 – Westland Row Station, Dublin – Archiseek – Irish Architecture

 

 

Link to GeoHive and search for Westland Row.

 

Then from the 

Base Information and Mapping select the Historic Map 6 inch colour 

and use the transparency slider to sharpen the old image.

Gives a small plan of the Railroad Station Ho.

(You might need to zoom out if it's saying the image is not available)

 

Note the narrow buildings on the platform and if you have access to IRRS 

photos on flickr you can see some of these in the background of

RNC_DSER_455_Westland_Row_04_Sept_1926 | [Photographer: Robi… | Flickr

 

While light on description of the station building the Dublin Penny Journal, vol. III, August 30, 1834, No. 113 has an account of The Dublin and Kingstown Railway which has great background reading.  There are also some accounts by Kevin Murray in the Old Dublin Society journals.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Best of luck with the project and Happy St. Patrick's Day

Wow thanks for all the info! The drawing of the front facade has been particularly helpful.

Probably a long-shot here but if anyone has any images, drawings, references etc. of the original Westland Row station building I'd be grateful to see them! Trying to model it now.. Probably never going to be exact but I'd like to make it as close as possible to how it was in the 1830s. Will share the CAD files here when I've finished it.

Alternatively, is there any in the IRRS archives? Can more justify subscribing if I know there's relevent images there.

Going way off topic here but I wonder could <€100 be achieved with a high-volume N-scale model with zero seperately fitted detail - all moulded, moudled chasis, 3-pole motor etc.

The way I see it, home ownership continues to drop, more people are renting apartments and rents in much of the country make owning an extra bedroom a rare feat. With N-scale a decent layout can fit on a standard 160x80cm desk, I firmly believe we'll see more under 30s getting into the hobby trend away from OO (or 21mm) in favour of N.

3 minutes ago, murphaph said:

I would love to know how many new or returning Irish modellers just grab the first GB outline yoke on the shelves and go from there. I almost only found out by accident that Irish stuff even existed. I was very close to modelling US outline.

I wonder if there'll ever be any mass-produced (and not sold out on day 1) & cheap, Irish starter sets, the likes of the €85-100 Hornby ones that come with a basic oval of track and a controller plus a not super detailed piece of Irish rolling stock.

Probably have to be a real economy-of-scale big order for that sort of thing to even break even.

Thinking of trying something like this as a motor:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000408554947.html

Still a question of whether it will fit somewhere it can be hidden (like in the W/C) but if it can be achieved in HO scale then doing the same in OO sounds plausible. On coach-stock anyway, probably no where to hide the mechanism on EMU/DMUs hence that dodgy digital attempt from Marklin

8 minutes ago, leslie10646 said:

Oh, and working pantographs have been around for about 40/50 years at least on HO models

Thanks for info! I'd only seen a few of them recently - seem to be more popular in the German market than UK/Ireland