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1 hour ago, BosKonay said:

Fwiw, ‘mass production’ just means lots and lots of nice ladies in China assembling kits

 

I still think I'm safe in saying that you won't do one!

2 hours ago, Ironroad said:

What would it cost to have a kit professionally built?

£250 - £300, added onto price of kit, motor, gears - close to £500?

£315 is a relative bargain.

18 minutes ago, Patrick Davey said:

Yikes pricey.... but if it was a BCDR one I'd pay it....

I would love one,but I think I will wait and hope IRM to do them in the future.

There's a song (1960s?) which encapsulates these dreams quite well.

"Until the Twelfth of Never, but that's a long long time" ............

Doing this little engine with the Z boiler and the big (actually pretty massive beside the little loco) was an obvious follow up for Roderick.

That said, do I need a third J15 when I'm modelling the World's Most Wonderful Railway. The GNR(I) for new readers!

1 hour ago, Galteemore said:

Cincinnatus ? That old Inst classical education left its mark Leslie ….although I think you’ll leave the logbooks when IRM roll out that S class in lined blue with sound..,,,

Sadly not Inst, David, but living with a noted Classicist probably helps .....

I don't need help on the S Class front - two in service and one in workshop. I'll post pics just to annoy everyone.

Not sneering, of course ..........

On 19/11/2022 at 6:54 PM, BosKonay said:

There is a fine line to thread but we have plans to make the waiting worthwhile and a range that will grow and widen to encompass the last 100 years (or more) of key Irish prototypes done to a high standard of detail and technology and accuracy we can all be proud of as Irish modellers. 

 

100 years back? That possibly takes in my whole range.

Like than Roman chap who went back to his plough, I think I'll get back to writing up my logbooks and leave you guys to it!

On 12/4/2021 at 12:59 PM, WRENNEIRE said:

I prefer mine clean!

I'm a bit late to this discussion but I have to agree, with David, David (think about it, the wording is correct!). I like clean model locos too and if you look below, they CAN be authentic!

How do you explain this photo of your loco months before closure

At Glenfarne, taken by the late Lance King, Copyright IRRS

PS The building looks great.

As promised, the estimable Andy with his latest creation. A W&LlR train hauled by "The Countess" enters Llanfair Caereinion with two of the fine saloons as they were in Cambrian Railway days (built by a friend of Andy's).

Then, below, the terminus in full with a GWR liveried train about to depart behind No.822 (The Earl) with two of the saloons in GWR colours. Both locos were 0-6-0Ts. The station area is modelled to scale length - not too many layouts can say that! The road (the A458, believe it or not!) behind the hedge is well-known to the McAllisters who travelled it many times en route to holidays in Porthmadog. The boys and I travelled on the railway, of course!).

A close up of the departing train which shows Andy's version of the saloons to advantage. Replicas (the originals were broken up in 1936) run on the railway today. A great way to spend an hour on a sunny afternoon (if you can find one in Mid-Wales).

The photo above was taken by Richard Ellis Hobbs who came by with Robert Shrives.

The Warley Display case included three Provincial wagons double beet wagons built by Robert.

Just 232 of these wagons now running on layouts around the globe! Thanks Robert.

(Further Irish interest on the shelf below I see!).

Other visitors included the esteemed  Mr Murphy and Andy Cundick who was showing his new layout "Llanfair Caereinion" - The Welshpool line as it was under GWR ownership in the 1930s. See next post.

Many thanks Darius for posting those photos of layouts I simply didn't have time to see!

Richard and I were so busy on Saturday, we never sat down. Great to meet Darius at last - here I am with the Modelling King!

The photos on the monitor are a slide show by the late David Soggee, whose immense slide collection has just come into the possession of the IRRS - our thanks to the Family.

8 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

Looks good. Although if that’s an ingredients shelf above the food mixer I’d be reluctant to partake in any cake or buns at your house….

Oh, Come on, David, the mixer is for grinding up surface scatter, as recommended in all the Good Books.

There must be suitable Biblical quote, but I can't think of one offhand. (Parable of sewer, perhaps .....).

(Filling in the car parking form for Warley has addled my brain)

Good luck with your new loco.

The ONLY Class of diesels which I "cleared" for haulage - mostly when they were on the Exeter semi-fasts from Waterloo - plenty of 100 mph runs coming home in the late evening. I even occasionally managed to travel behind one going into work, after a change of train at Woking.

Getting the last loco (Basingstoke to Overton - I had nipped out of work to get it, after a tip-off and had to get back quickly) was quite a pantomime.

Happy Days.

It’s that time of year again and I'm packing ready for the weekend.

To remind attenders!

The only “Irish” layout this year is the organising Society’s “Inver” which is on Stand C41.

Robert Shrives of this parish will be showing his beet wagons built from a kit from a well-known provider – you’ll find them in the Warley Society’s Showcase at Stand A6.

Andy Cundick (also One of The Elect) has his Welsh Narrow Gauge layout “Llanfair Caereinon” on Stand B107. Looking forward to seeing it as it was a great favourite with the family!

Meanwhile, you’ll find the Irish Railway Record Society on Stand C22 where Richard McLachlan will be showing his famous digitised drawings of many aspects of Irish Railways from buildings, track, and locomotives to coaches and wagons. I will be selling some Irish books, the Society’s noted Journal – AND YOU CAN EVEN JOIN The Society.

We hope to see some of you at the weekend.

Leslie

2 hours ago, Georgeconna said:

the Side on looks lovely. Severely Tempted but GW.!!

Will look forward to seeing these running on the internet for sure! 

Normally, George, I'd agree with the "but GW" bit.

But, the inescapable fact is that GWR locos LOOK nice.

Leslie (GWR Soc Member Number 2371 - I think?)

56 minutes ago, Auto-Train Original said:

They come in hard envelopes and are a quality product at an excellent price. Huge fan here.

Hear, hear!

Another "fleet" which were two and three car units were to be found on Deutsche Reichsbahn - the "Flying Hamburger" and its cousins were two and three car units and built in some profusion.

I think I am right in saying that they were multiple units in that two (two car) units would run in tandem part of the way to their destination and there split with one unit going to one destination, the other to another. Exactly as the present-day ICE units do. I woujld quote the routes, but I'm not at the house with my 1939 DR timetable in in!

They were pretty extraordinary for their time  averaging around 70mph for some end to end journeys.

11 hours ago, airfixfan said:

The UTA were also pioneers in Railcar development. The MEDs were full of innovations in many areas.

In multiple unit terms (rather than "railcar") the UTA were pioneers with the MPDs which ran in many combinations, at about the same time as the GNRB built the BUTs at Dundalk - although the GNR didn't pull goods trains with them!

59 minutes ago, Horsetan said:

...although nowadays, it's probably more brown than green because of decades of pollution.

Just like the colour of The Blue Danube!

9 hours ago, Warbonnet said:

No sleep till Warley! And in a few days @Garfield will have no sleep for the next 18 years or so... 

Best wishes and prayers for Mrs Garfield.

Eighteen years? I still worry about mine 48 years on ......

Mind you the 48 year old has 350 clever folk working for him in Swords.

As for the granchildren (one and three) - yes, glad not to be under the same roof at nights.

2 hours ago, Liam_Murph said:

Seen this announcement sent me back to trawling through the 1960's photo album on flickr to get inspiration for tying in these coaches to a scene.

Is the coach here one of the full brake 6 wheelers or a brake 2nd?

 

As Galteemore says above, a six wheel full brake -  a similar one was on the 1964 Grand Tour and I have shots of one in BnT on the IRRS St Pat's Day tour to Youghal when it had the honour of being hauled by Class VS 207 Boyne. 

So well done Hattons for doing their homework ( or using the right Consultant!) and producing it in this livery.

4 hours ago, Galteemore said:

The quality of so much UK RTR until fairly recently was such that it was really only of use for running or butchering - it really wasn’t display case material. The advent of hi-fidelity finish means that UK RTR items are now objets d’art in their own right. I’m guessing that many of these locos are bought either as investments or layout candy, as very few prototypical layouts can justify one! I’m still holding out for a 7:20 Mixed set, with 0-6-4T, clerestory coach and wagons, with a set of Eire and NI customs officials…..

You're right about the Display Case point.

I have no reason to have -

Kernow's Bulleid diesel, a West Country pacific, a T9, Pullman coaches, a S15, a Q1, 18.201 (a 100mph East German Pacific); Chinese QJ (2-10-2), a SS8 electric, a DF5 diesel and a WD in Kowloon Canton Railway colours. I even have a Swiss Re4/4 in KCR colours (they had two); finally some Rhaetian Railway locos and coaches

- except to have them in a glass case where I can ogle them?

Actually, with the exception of the Bulleid diesel, I've travelled behind all of them!

Thanks for that LBM; but as the Hatttons LNWR coaches have sold out on pre-order, I'll have to hope that a few folk don't take up their options - my "Wish List" (a Hattons feature) is extensive!

55 minutes ago, Niles said:

Well I began today with a healthy debit card and now it's... less healthy.

As for rescuing the real thing, DCDR have a six wheeler under restoration https://www.downrail.co.uk/rolling-stock/gswr-69/ and more on site.

(seriously if anyone would like to help in some shape with these I can point you to the right people...)

 

 

Niles, they only take the dough when they are ready to send and have checked with you that you still want them - READ THE SMALL PRINT!

Do you really think I'd give them £260 for something I won't see until I'm 78, if I'm spared?

Now you're all calculating what I opted for .......

Well there should be an addition to my Christmas Mail Train in 2023 (those of you with time on your hands can work it out!).

Now, where can I find a 2024 diary to remind me I need the money in my account!

1 hour ago, Ironroad said:

Great news and nice to see that they listened to those of us that lobbied them to do this quite some time ago. Goes to prove, if you don't ask it won't happen.

As Ironroad said, well done for those who asked Hattons for them. "Ask and ye shall receive" - although I don't think it was quite what The Good Man meant!

48 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

Yes. They are very similar to one long-lived GSWR design, and carry numbers and liveries of exact examples which were still about post-1954 or so. A MUST-buy!

OK, JB, I'll take your good advice! Going to their website NOW.

Mr Beaumont isn't on line, otherwise we'd have got an answer on the accuracy by now! Wake up JB!

But if the dark green / Eau de Nil version is as good as Tony Mirolo's ones on "The Quiet Man" layout at Raheny, they'll more than "do".

I can see a dark green set being ordered for GAA specials arriving at Portadown (ECS from Armagh?) having come over the Cavan line ......

A follow-on from the use on goods trains of the Multi-Purpose Diesels some years earlier.

They used to take about thirty wagons on the "Eight-Five Goods" out of Belfast York Road in the evenings. It was commonly banked up the 1 in 76 from Bleach Green by the Station Pilot - usually a steam loco being run-in. I had a ride on a GNR Class UG one evening doing that job.

29 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

That was done by Dempsey, of this parish.

Everything I possess was weathered either by Dempsey or the equally talented Kevin McIntosh of Bray.

WHAAATTT!!!

You're dirtying my lovely wagons?

Didn't you read the conditions of sale?

I think you may be right about the normal purpose of this "horse". It looks just like the shunting tractors used to shunt unaccompanied trailers onto the boats these days.

Obviously it isn't a new idea to leave the power unit behind and just put the wagon onto the boat (just like a train ferry in fact).

I asked Joe (who took the photo) if he could read the script, but alas, no.

Good luck with the model Larne Cabin - I visited that place dozens of times between 1964 and 1968.