Horsetan

.... 'drink, arse and feck!'.....

have emailes des and if there is sufficent interest he will considder the project. no more at the moment....

Father Jack: "They lie in wait like wolves, the smell of blood in their nostrils. Waiting, interminably waiting, and then..."

Slightly OT, but when I saw 461 appear in a film (it may have been Michael Collins), there was something quite weird about the way it moved. It may have been the quality of the track, or possibly the camera itself but as it came towards the camera, it actually appeared to bounce on its springs with every revolution of the driving wheels. I've never seen anything quite like that before or since!

.... to misquote Fr. Ted, "aren't they ALL lovely buses...."

Careful now.

..... A brass kit would certainly be a possibility, though... .

Looks like SSM or Worsley, then. Can't wait to see the look on Des's face when you approach him with "a proposition".....!

.... I got some excellent cie heritage paints off Jim poots at raheny and the colour tones are unlike those available from the big manufacturers. His green is uncanny to all photos i've seen of the era. And for €2 a tin he should sell it by the pint.

Does he have a website?

..... i dont think i could do 461 the justice it deserves, may be Des will think about.

I think Des said a while ago that he was looking at designing kits for the D17 and D19 4-4-0s in the years ahead, but had no plans for any other steam classes.

Half the problem with trying to design any locomotive kit is - in the absence of a preserved example - whether the original GA drawings, etc. are still available and accessible.

The really good thing is that you can build this kit as a number of sub-assemblies before you try to fit everything together. It may not have been Terry MacDermott's original intention when he designed it all those years ago, but it's certainly turning out that way! There is room for improvement, though.

Cab interior next, I think.

Question: if anyone has any photos of no.171 with its boiler "off the frames" (has it ever been lifted in preservation?), I'll pump your arms off if there are views of the inside motion!

Interesting. Is your proposal RTR or are you going to be putting subtle pressure on SSM to design a kit?

Chassis for 461 would - on the face of it - be simple; no visible valve gear, but plenty of space between the frames (in 21mm) to have working cranks and inside motion.

My name's already down for NCC "WT"/Jeep no.4, which Worsley Works have been quietly slaving over for a little while!

A bit more work on rolling the cab roof eaves has been reasonably successful, and they now look like this:

The whole point is to get the roof profile to match that of the cab front, which is why I said earlier that the thing wasn't as easy as it looked!

We are almost ready to start soldering the cab and splashers to the footplate, so that means the central section carrying the nameplates can be sawn out. The instructions say that on the inner rims of the footplate have half-etched "ledges" for the cab and splashers to sit on, and they are visible in this shot:

You'll also spot that the right-hand/offside "ledge" is far better defined than the nearside one, which doesn't give enough room for the nearside splashers to rest on. This is likely to be a flaw in the etching process, which allowed one side to be more exposed than the other. The original artwork should have both sides equal - perhaps Des / Weshty can confirm that the artwork he inherited does in fact look that way?

Here we are for tonight, and it's begining to look a bit more like no.171 in the Erecting Shop:

.....Claremorris on the other hand is a bit of a mess, with bits stuck on all over the place, and interventions almost once a decade. If it was brought back in model form, it would have to be the original version. .....

.....which is what I was after.....

Would this be a Tree Series?

The Ballykay landmark buildings are spot-on. If I close my eyes, I could almost be standing in Avoca. Hendley's stands out, 'cos when I walked out of the shop, I forgot the steps were there and almost fell down them

Irish model architecture has clearly gone from famine to feast in a very short space of time. For years there was virtually nothing on the market, and then "Glenderg" comes out of nowhere with his work and everyone's suddenly spoilt for choice!

Any chance of Ennis or Claremorris stations appearing in the Glenderg range?

As the head Councillor of Ballykay all brown envelopes have been received.....

"The money was just resting in my account...."

Horsetan. the RPSI had 525 and 727, as well as existing No. 9 in the Dublin set - the last of them.

 

525 was a brake coach like 114, and 727 was a full open - in fact, it lasted as a 70 class intermediate until about 1980, making it the last GNR coach in service. GNR coaches of post war vintage very built with very poor quality wood, and rotted prolifically. 727 and 595 literally fell apart while awaiting restoration at Whitehead some years ago. 114 still exists, but would not be in anything like runnable condition - she would need a 100% rebuild. She had been used as a crew coach well into the 1990s on northern based trips and the May Tour.

 

No. 9 - or 1909 as it is now known, was very rotten and was completely structurally rebuilt at Whitehead in the early '90s......

Thanks very much for that. I did a search through the RPSI's current stock list, and couldn't find no.9 / 1909.

Reason why I asked whether a K15 was still extant is because I'm looking for a suitable excuse to buy a kit to replicate a preserved one....if there was one preserved.

.... big improvement on the original factory glazing would be nice if they would do a set for the MM201

Might be worth asking Shawplan if they would consider covering Irish classes, including those made by SSM.

If you do a search for Shawplan / Extreme Etchings, you will find that they produce glazing kits known as "Laserglaze" for various engines and rolling stock. They are light years ahead of vacuum-formed stuff, and are the closest thing to glass that you can get without actually being glass....

Click here for sample

....horny deltic chassis....

Would you not be wanting to rephrase that?

..... Nobody lives in wicklow, they just frequent it,

lol

I wonder if the insurance cover was adequate!

.....Here's the facepalm one just added

 

Rapid!

K's were bought by Autocom , who also bought Nu-cast & Millholme.

Autocom used to attend the UK shows but I have not seen them attending in the last eight years.

Their e-mail is nu-cast@supanet.com.

The man behind Autocom recently retired, so Autocom NuCast is no more.

If you have to be blunt, they were years behind the game yet the kits cost an absolute fortune, and there was no money to re-tool or improve the range; the future in Irish steam outline, by contrast, is with SSM and its brethren.

Living statue?

I seem to recall that RPSI also lost both surviving GNR(I) K15 coaches. Or is there still one left?

...I did not realise that the RPSI lost so many Bredins due to arson.

I did wonder whether Irish preservation sees more arson attacks than anywhere else.

....I smell a rat. A big fat rat. Who smell's a bit fishy too. A fishrat.

I'd put that in the bin; it may be decomposing.

I'll probably use this one a lot...

I'm with ye there.

Is there a "facepalm" smiley? I've a feeling I'm going to be needing that one.....