GSR 800

railcars

Ohh b*****x!

What would be a good one for a 400 class?

The SR Schools class is fairly close to a GNR VS class

Another one, the SR M7 0-4-4 to the GSR/CIE E1 class

A thread to assist those who are looking for RTR stock that could be converted to look more like the Irish stuff.

To start off,

My favourites, the 800s. The Royal Scot class/patriot class are the ideal locos for conversion. I'm sure Des would supply you with nameplates and number plates.

Another,very easy one is the woolwich moguls,get an N class, repainted, few little alterations and away you go.

Ah stop John, I'm having me dinner!

My numbers plates, Broithe, are the right way up. It's just the car that's upside down....

How nauseating..

I'm coming around to the idea of building the kit as 560, which kept on working after the Tramore line closed. The photo of it on a railtour in Fenit shows that it even kept its plates, which are part of the kit. Might as well use 'em, and the garden shed cab.

Fare enough so, that's your choice, and 560 was a unique one. And the tramore line would make a great layout...

Well done John, might buy a copy myself!

The T&C would be an excellent place for this little locos. Beet in the autumn, and excursion trains in the summer(with a couple of ancient 6 wheelers behind of course!)if you were going with such a layout, no.552 would be a good candidate, as it was a regular performer on the T&C.

It's actually far more expensive, if you ad postage, it ends up at over €100!

It did look a bit like that, but the green was much darker

Lads, has anyone seen a railcar( I think it was a 29000) in a dark green livery? I saw a glimpse of it leaving Mullingar on the Sligo line. Is this a new livery or do I need to go to specksavers?

Would ye nearly be better scratch building or kit bashing?

Well, I'd be happy with blue 4.4.0s on the Enterprise...

Those were the good Aul days.. Hmmm..

Harry

 

Funny enough how taste and perception changes, at one time I though the Inchacore styling of the GSR era was the bees-knees, but now I prefer the combination of power and elegance of the Coey-Maunsell era and big 4-4-0s with tapered round top boilers nothing like them in Ireland or the UK.

 

Any to the Long Toms there were 6 supposedly nicknamed after a Boer artillery piece used in the Second Boer War, co-incidentally the GNR 0-8-0 of the same era built under Henry Ivatt, Robert Coey and Richard Maunsell's former boss at Inchacore were also nicknamed long Toms.

 

The Coey locos seem to have had more in common appearance wise with Crew than Doncaster in design, though mechanically the Irish locos were totally different and in certain respects more modern

 

362-367 were designed for heavy goods work, the 4-6-0s appear to have shared common parts including wheels, motion and possibly firebox with the 355 & 368 Class inside cylinder 2-6-0s. The wheels were the same size as the J15 or 101 so not really suitable for mixed traffic work.

 

Its to the Coey and Maunsells credit that they quickly rebuilt the 355 Class into an inside cylinder 2-6-0 and followed up with the 368 Class rather than inflict more 4-6-0s on the operating department.

 

The GSWR & GNR (England) Long Toms seem to have been nicknamed after a Boers artillery piece in the Second Boer War.

The Long Toms were built during an era when the majority of British engineers were struggling to design a 4-6-0 that would work, it says a lot about the calibre of management in the Coey-Maunsell era that they quickly developed the inside cylinder 2-6-0 rather than build more 362 Class 4-6-0s on the operating Department once the problems with poor tracking and rough riding were identified.

 

1948 CIE Running Dept assessment of the 355 & 368 inside cylinder 2-6-0s

“Very useful heavy goods engine, powerful and with a low axleload enabling them to be worked over many lines. A type that should have been developed”.

 

The 500 Class 4-6-0s Woolwich Moguls appear to have made the 362 Class 4-6-0s and some of the 355 & 368 Class 2-6-0s redundant. The GSR had a surplus of heavy goods locos, and it would have been difficult to justify re-building the 362s while scrapping similar locomotives.

Absolutely fascinating! So these locomotives designed for freight workings? These would have been a very powerful locomotive at the time,possibly one of the largest in Europe? Such a shame they were all scrapped, they would have been a fascinating exhibit at Cultra! Would the 500s have been the first "successful" 4-6-0s? I have a feeling that the GWR will get involved in this conversation..

Should a new thread be started for the long toms and nicknames for other locos?

You should also correct Gsr 800 then.

Sure I was trying to show you your mistake!

I'll buy at least six.. Then declare bankruptcy.

The vistiors were not pleased.. But the layout design is looking good! What era are you planning?

Fantastic - a thread currently running to 5 pages on RAILCARS, I can hardly believe it. Keep it going please.

Ahh,well Kieran, I think the AECs are one of the most liked(maybe even loved!) railcars in Ireland, probably due to the character,comfort and various attractive liveries which they carried. I for one certainly like the AECs and I'm sure many do as well

 

It isn't done by machine, all by hand

Holy Sambo, these people are clearly a higher power, brought down from the heavens to show railway modellers how to weather properly:p( I think I'm goin a bit mental..must be all that glue and gloss varnish....)

It would almost defiantly have been on the Dublin Cork mainline, 2 reasons

A=this was the mainline such an" exclusive coach" would usually be limited to the main lines example being the Pullmans, the furthest they ever got from the mainline was headford junction.B=the loco hauling the train is.. The 800 class which were restricted to the mainline, although being the flagship locos would have meant they would have showed up on advertising a fare bit in the early 50s

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Nope, clear out the vaults!