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  1. 1 hour ago, BSGSV said:

    I seem to recall seeing something in passing, and with no details, about a proposed "cut-off" line from the MGWR to the GSWR line near Lucan, after 1945. I don't know if there was any truth to it, or just a mis-interpretation about something else, as I've never seen any further reference to it.

     @Mayner has mentioned similar before as a proposal under the GSR.

    MGWR trains would've run to Kingsbridge instead of Westland Row.

    The impact of this would be quite interesting, depending on where the line departed. One wonders if it would have prevented the changeover of Western services to the GSWR route to Athlone in the 70s

     

     

  2. 1 minute ago, Galteemore said:

    I think it was a bit of a generic style among early diesel shunters. Maunsell’s 0-6-0 diesels for the Southern look very similar 

    I wonder if Southern influence had anything to do with it. Bulleid was only a few years from joining, and Maunsell and Holcroft had worked closely with Inchicore in improving the 400s, and it's thought the 800s were likewise influenced by Maunsell, who visited Inchicore several times after retiring (in 1937).

     

     

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  3. 13 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

    While bringing Awwsum American tourists to the Titanic Centre in Belfast in recent years I’ve often noticed these rails, which look to be about 2 foot gauge, on a preserved slipway where the world’s first unsinkable ship was built (before it sunk).

    Does anyone know anything about it?

    Four parallel double lines with a crossover in the middle. 

    Photos of it in use anywhere?

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    Looks like Olympic's and later Britannic's slipway. Titanic's had the same ofc. AFAIK there were small carts and flatbed wagons used (unsure of motive power) to bring material, steel beams, etc wherever they need to go, to be picked up by the gantry crane and lifted into position.

    Britannic_under_construction.thumb.jpg.51ab55e1b3d40dbb15d0e64c66b5c906.jpg

    You can just see them far left under the hull right next to the ramp.

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  4. 1 hour ago, minister_for_hardship said:

    I don't know if a greenway and railway would fit within the railway-owned land footprint? Greenways here are way over engineered, about the width of a secondary road, it might mean a CPO of people's land!

     

     

     

    I've little sympathy for their plight.

    Disused railways that are very unlikely to ever see service again, fair enough. Achill, Clifden, etc.

    Significant link lines and main lines turned into greenways is just absolute madness.

     

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  5. Daft idea anyway, Irish Rail has even said they'll be happy to accommodate the cycleway if it doesn't impede the ability to run trains.

    Can't wait until they set their eyes upon the Mullingar-Athlone stretch for reopening.

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  6. 1 hour ago, Darius43 said:

    Pretty sure that you could use 2mm thick card, scored and cut into strips then painted grey.

    Cheers

    Darius

    Would certainly be cheaper. Often they've an edge knocked off them, are broken in two, with the odd one dislodged or even missing! 

     

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  7. 11 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

    Now that's a pity - you've saved me a bit of work. I was literally on their website ordering scenic bits and pieces. Pity - they've some nice stuff. Another "win" for brexit.........

    Another win for border parcel motel..

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  8. 2 hours ago, Branchline121 said:

    Seen some photos showing that charging infrastructure for the battery DARTs is being installed at Drogheda on platform 3. I assume they must be getting close to entering service, provided it works. It’d seem that Drogheda is nearing the end of an era, with the commuters soon being replaced with DARTs and an electric Enterprise on the horizon.

    AFAIK plan is indeed for Drogheda to become the depot for the Dart + and for Connolly to take its place with the 29s. Maybe Limerick will get some of them too.

     

  9. 2 hours ago, Mol_PMB said:

    While we're on annual reports, the 1962 report includes a fairly well-known photo showing the first train in the new black and tan livery:

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    On close inspection, 3 of the 'carriages' behind A6 are actually powered intermediate railcars, newly converted from the Wedgeheads. The other bogie coach is state saloon 351. 

    It seems they scraped together anything in the new livery to pose for the photographer - it's certainly an unusual train formation!

    The first few powered intermediate conversions were definitely outshopped in green (illustrations linked upthread) but it looks like the last few came out in black and tan.

    the white band on the coaches looks thick as all hell

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  10. 14 minutes ago, josh_ said:

    Should they be placed in the holes here?

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    almost certainly in the two inner holes yes, though they should be sprung.

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  11. 5 minutes ago, josh_ said:

    I wanna leave them out at the same time I sense that they could be a key component 

    Ill open it up and show inside the motor 

    IMG_8985.mov

    motor wont work without them, they carry current through

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  12. 25 minutes ago, josh_ said:

    I have a problem 

    I had 2 very small steel circles pop out when I opened up the motor 

    I’m unsure where they go 

    Any ideas from those who are more experienced and knowledgeable on model motors 

    IMG_8984.mov

    They're the motor's brushes. They should be sprung, though idk if pancake motors achieved it via regular springs or a type of plate?

  13. 27 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

    The new Wqaterford station appears to be a two-platform through halt, like Clontarf Road or Glenegeary. If a Limerick train is occupying one platform, and a Dublin o0ne the other, the goods trains to Belview can't get through.

    Maybe that's the idea.

    And, it seems, zero sidings. Nothing to store anything extra, spare, or broken down.

    What's to become of Plunkett once the new station opens?

    Hopefully not left to rot like half of Mullingar?

  14. 2 hours ago, Mol_PMB said:

    Continuing the topic of 1950s liveries, I stumbled across this post which is worth a read:

    This re-opens the prospect of multiple shades of green (not just light and dark) as well as describing different lining styles. 

    I've been doing some more research on this myself recently based on photographs, and it might be interesting to try and cross-reference the statements in the above linked post with what appears in photos. 

    However, I'm minded to wait until the old IRRS journals become available online, so that I can check back to the original news items and studies.

    Most photos from the early and mid 1950s are monochrome, though colour becomes more common in the late 1950s.

    It would certainly explain pretty newly painted coaches of similar looking various shades against each other in the early 1950s, and the various shades often seen.

    Harty has had a shocking time of it all, Bredin getting all the spotlight!

     

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  15. 35 minutes ago, Horsetan said:

    It's tempting. What would really complete the illusion is a widened footplate - the Woolwiches were 6 inches wider - all of the extra being added between the frames - than the Southern Railway sisters.

    I considered commissioning it; indeed, I may do so if there's enough interest. However, if I were to do so, it'd be after the A class. 

    Slight update while I'm at it, smokebox door detail painted.

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  16. 3 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

    The Guinness system was by several zillion light years NOT Ireland's "largest industrial railway"; Bord na Mona had many hundreds of kilometres of lines all over the country; the several largest ones being individually bigger than the Guinness lines...... dunno how that book, interesting as it is, managed to acquire that title!

    They must've been drunk.

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  17. On 19/7/2025 at 9:06 AM, Mol_PMB said:

    It's also worth a look at Ernie's albums for this period, particularly the 1956 set:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/albums/72157715532510616/

    003 Westland Row D4 346, 8.06 Bray-Amiens St 4jun56 008 Westland Row 62 4jun56 340 CIE 1956-09-05 Westland Row Boat train to Dun Laoghaire Pier J8 445 coprint340

    And some in the 1920s-1950s album:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/albums/72157628303965777

    CIE 1953-09-21 Wexford  14.50 Rosslare - Dublin AEC 2616 +2617 Mck015 GMK090 CIE 1955-xx Park Royal 10'-6'' Suburban open 3rd C191 CIE 1955-07-CA Cork J15 195 LGM010 CIE 1951-05-17 Dun Laoghaire 438 JGD5164 AF0062 CIE Dublin, Harcourt St . D14, 63 27June1950 CIE 1955-07-06 Manulla Junction 668 LGM zz062 AF0153 Limerick D17 54 Conv oil burning. 5July 1950 098 CIE 196 Dublin to Athy Borris station 1956 098 591704 Bray C231 1959 JGD CIE 1956-08-27 Mallow A25 001 DSE 1955-04-20 Rathdrum D4 346 JGD550606 551301 Killiney & Ballybrack CIE 1954-xx-xx Cork 394 to Rosslare 014 DSE  1955-04-20 Nr Rathdrum D10 314 JGD5557 CIE 1959-05-16 Dun Laoghaire C231 JGD CIE 1959-05-17 Killiney 2619 JGD CIE 1959-05-12 Killiney, 2603 JGD590929

    The last few colour ones are 1959 so may be a bit late for your interests, but they are in colour which is nice.

    Many thanks for the info Mol. I think I'll just go with a lower stripe on her then. This raises the question as to whether the PRs were ever in the dark green with the single stripe! 

    Certainly looks like the PR is in the same dark green as the AEC in the last photo.

    Some detailing and glazing added to the open coach.

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    I'll need a corridor and a buffet coach overlays from @Mayner to help complete to set!

    Train so far. Bredin mail van, steel side and the open, hauled by Maedbh. The Mail van will get the full lining at some point. 20250720_160256.thumb.jpg.a12e2323fe3d32cccb4bd51f1ad37407.jpg

     

     

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  18. 5 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

    Not anything specific. On even cursory inspection, none of these GWR, SECR, SR, LMS or LNER coaches look truly like anything that ever ran on this island. (Exception: LMS designs on the NCC, but mixed in with older flatosided BNCR stock!).

    However, the height and positioning of the windows on some SR stock vaguely suggests MGWR, whereas some GWR and LMS designs have a vaguely GSWR (and therefore GSR, and CIE) look about them. The livery change helps hugely, of course.

    By sheer luck, the Hattons 6-wheelers were very similar in overall styling to be close enough to several batches of GSWR 6-wheelers, hence the run of them that was done.

    But, yes, a number 163M on that yoke certainly gives the right overall impression! Had considered that too myself. A former MGWR bogie in West Kerry in the 1950s is not beyond the bounds of possibility, because one was seen at kenmare on occasion, and also (possibly the same one?) visited Wisht Caark, boy, too!

    MGWR bogie 96M at Alberts Quay https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/54252116022/in/photolist-2pBRTa7-2qE5gYJ-2pww8wY-2pwD4FU-2pww8fq-2pwBypu-2pwByrP-2pwCkH1-2pwCkH6-2pwCkHr-2pwCVpk-2py2ycK-2pww8xp-2pww8xQ-2pwAH9y-2pwByrd-2pwCkpa-2pwCVo8-2pwCVoP-2pwCVqC-2pwDywX-2pvwHKa-2pwjsTY-2pwByqG-2pwDm6y-2pwCcq8-2qEc2KN-2qEb3U6

     

     

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