A class shells on one bogie not turning

[trainboy]

Hi all, A couple of my A class locos are having a problem where one of the bogie wheel sets is not turning. I asked about this awhile ago and I think Fran mentioned that the drive shaft probably required a little glue, as it was slipping and not engaging. Has anyone else had this problem? I opened up one of the locos to check but was afraid to dismantle the whole assembly. I thought it would be easy enough to get to the shaft piece. Thanks Brendan

That should read A class wheels, not shells…my fat fingers

 

[TimO]

Hi @trainboy, I have not seen this problem but I suggest you turn the loco upside down and place it on something soft to protect the roof detail.  Then try turning each wheel set in turn. If anyone or more of them are free to rotate then they have a problem, maybe you have done this already. If you have an issue you could email IRM support as they have a lifetime warranty or alternatively remove the axle keeper plate and see if the gear on the axle is loose or damaged. If it’s damaged you will need a replacement, if it’s loose I’d still look for a replacement. Hope that helps.

[DJ Dangerous]

I think that @trainboy means that the motor is not turning the wheels, and is just spinning.

IRM sent me instructions on how to dismantle the loco and apply superglue to the shaft driving the wheels, as I had this issue myself.

Was quite a while back, but if you contact IRM support directly, they are super to deal with.

[trainboy]

Thanks for the responses. I’ll follow up with IRM support. 

[spudfan]

I had this problem on a Bachmann class 66. One of the drive shafts kept coming loose at one end. I contacted Bachmann who were excellent.

This is the reply and it should be relevant to your problem.

"As the driveshaft is continuing to pop out it is possible that one of the drivecups has become damaged causing the shaft to not be held in place.  It is also possible that the drivecup on the worm gear has been pushed on too far which is causing the driveshaft to fall out.  It is also worth checking that the driveshaft is being correctly installed in the motor drivecup and is the correct way round (both ends are different), the end with the squarer lugs should fit into the motor drivecup and may not fit in the worm gear.

By first removing the bogie from the model, and then removing the worm gear assembly from the bogie tower,   The bogie is secured by a single screw which can be accessed by removing the body, the wires from the pickups will also need to be removed from the PCB, these are located under two of the PCB tabs.  You may need to do a small amount of threading/untangling to get the wires out so that the bogie can be removed.  Once the bogie is out, the worm gear can be removed.  This is secured by a cover which is clipped onto the bogie tower and may require the removal of the bogie tower top, held with two screws, to remove.  Once the worm gear has been removed it may be possible to ease the drivecup further out on the shaft, a gear puller or similar would help with this.  Care would need to be taken to avoid damaging either the drivecup or the worm gear when doing this, and also to not move it too far as this could cause further problems.  It the drivecup is pulled too far it could leave not enough space for the driveshaft which could then cause the drive to lock or snap the driveshaft.  It could also catch on the chassis causing unwanted noise.

With the bogie removed you should also be able to check to see if the drivecup is damaged causing the driveshaft to fall out.  The motor drivecups are a little harder to see, but with the bogie removed you may be able to detect any damage."

 Be careful using glue. The driveshaft has to have play to move in the cups at both ends to allow the loco to negeotiate curves. If you put glue on it this will not be possible.