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  1. KMCE

    CIE Locomotive Grey specification

    My preference is for the Acrylics also, specifically Vallejo Model Air Humbrol 27 - Vallejo Model Air 71.047 Grey Revell 78 - Vallejo Model Air 71.048 Engine Grey I am proposing to use Vallejo Model Air 71.110 Dark Grey as a base with drops of white mixed in for highlights for my locos. Hope that helps Ken
  2. If you ever needed a good photographic example of a heavily weathered loco, this has got to be it! That image just oozes character and a hard life......
  3. KMCE

    Class 458 Build

    Brake time! Well after the break, there was some work done. I had drilled the chassis to take brake hangers and blocks but needed rods underneath. Brake hangars & blocks were machined out of 0.5mm brass- I'm moving into the CNC realm at the moment, so this was good test. Parts machined well and cut out of tabs to ensure they did not go flying on the CNC (earlier attempt did not go so well!) Parts needed tabs trimmed off and filed back to complete; hence shoes are not identical. Shoes were then soldered to the hangars before fitting to the loco. Brake rods were cut from some 0.3mm Nickel Silver and holes drilled accordingly. Spacing is not 100% as the rear brake blocks are too far from the wheel for my liking, so that will need a tweak to get it more realistic. Front and rear brakes were attached using 1mm tube through the pre prepared holes. The bottom holes also picked up some 1mm tube to connect through the rods. The ends of the rods at the cab end needed to be fixed and were fitted with some faux actuating levers which were angled and fixed back to the frames. This secures the rods at three point and holds everything quite rigid given the sizes of the pieces. Rather fiddly to execute, but came together nicely. I added in a faux joint using some of the rod strip with some rivets on it for detail, which turned out surprisingly well. Once the chassis was back together, we get this: Those rear brakes are just a little too far forward. I have two options - fix it, or leave it, as the front steps obscure the view of the front hangars and block, so perhaps it will not be as noticible. Probably better to fix it and it will be right going forward. The 1.5mm tubes which hold the compensation bars (see above) were trimmed back to the chassis and soldered into place which really tidies up the look of the chassis and stops things from falling apart. A view of the completed work from below look like this: Edging closer to completion 🙂
  4. KMCE

    David's Workbench

    I always ensure that my range of expletives is fully stocked prior to commencing any model work. This way I save time having to look for the right word for events such as this!!
  5. KMCE

    Class 458 Build

    Some more work. Roof was shaped from some brass sheet and rolled into a rough form - this needed fettling to fit the cab curves. Cab sides also needed some fettling to allow roof to sit down properly. Roof is held in place with PB wire tabs - it provides a friction fit so it can be removed if necessary. I'm still debating this - is access really needed when the whole locomotive comes apart quite easily? It is a little difficult to get the roof to sit tightly. Sides were bent up slightly using the folding tool and a line of rivets added front and back. Next up was the interconnector between main and bunker tanks. This is under the footplate and behind the cab steps. Basic construction of which was fixed to the underside of the footplate leaving room for the steps later. So tank connectors and roof on, we get this. I had a smoke stack and dome from another kit which were close to the prototype, so added these. Not entirely happy with the location of the dome - it is a little too far forward when viewed from the side. The safety valve bonnet has not been added yet which may help to reduce that long run of boiler behind the dome. We can deal with that later. One element recommended in the book "Scratch-Building Model Railway Tank Locomotives" by Simon Bolton is the use of half round brass wire to provide finishing details. It's a good idea and looks well in the book. He comments that he would be lost without his half round brass wire.....hmm...I think I'm lost with it!! In principle it is quite a straight forward operation - tin the seam and back of the wire and sweat the two together. In practice, it's a little more difficult to get the lines straight and corners crisp. First attempt on the LHS tank will need to be redone as it is all over the place - later work on the RHS tank, cab openings and bunker are a little better and do help to soften the edges. All part of the learning curve as they say......... However, we are starting to get a smart looking locomotive (even if I do say so myself!) More soon. Ken
  6. KMCE

    650 Class test build

    John, Superb work there - very impressed with the crispness of the etchings and how well they go together. You have me sorely tempted with this one, as I have a soft spot for the 2-4-0 class, both tender and tank. My next build will most likely be a 423 2-4-0T used on the DSER line; hence the earlier query about leaf spring castings. I rather like the bending jig you have for flaring the tender sides - perhaps you may provide some more info? You show rivet details on the smokebox, etc. Are the rivets part of the etching process or do we need to add them ourselves? From your earlier comments regarding the gauge, I assume these can be made up in 21mm? Regards, Ken
  7. KMCE

    Class 458 Build

    Recent progress - Quite a bit of work, but not much to show compared to before. Boiler, body, footplate and chassis are now fixed. Done in a way to ensure it can can come apart for painting and maintenance. Tab installed at the front and screw through to the bunker holds the chassis. A fixing plate and captive nut was soldered to the base of the smokebox with a bold through the footplate holds the boiler in place at one end, with a nut through the cab front holds the other end. A nut was soldered to the inside front face of the tanks which allows bolts thread thorough from the footplate to hold the tanks down. All good and secure now. Cab front has been soldered onto the cabsides, and the gaps filled to provide a smooth face. Some last tiding up around the opening for the boiler holding bolt will be needed now that all is in its final locations. The front upper frames were made and fixed down either side of the smoke box which finishes the footplate off nicely. The prototypes had a plate with grab handle on it which covers the front of the valves and this was soldered into place. These few items, while taking up most of the evening are starting to finish off the model nicely. So the big question - with the extra weight does it run well. Eh - no, not yet. The weight is transmitted down through the compensation pivot points, but is bearing more on the bogie and trailing wheels, so a little fettling is required to settle the drivers firmly on the track. But we are getting there. Still need to do the bunker tanks, and put in some false tank ends inside the cab. A roof would be nice, so we still have more work to do. More shortly. Ken
  8. KMCE

    Class 458 Build

    Finally, some round stuff. Got to work on the boiler and smoke box this evening. A spacer was fabricated from some scrap for inserting between the smoke box formers. The captive nut is to allow connection of the boiler and smoke box. Wrapper was fabricated from some 0.3 mm brass and rivets added for detail. It was rolled using tube on the thigh - quite uncomfortable after time, so a general shape was developed and then tacked to the formers. The reverse curve was generated using a tube pressing against the former and then the wrapper was finally soldered in place. The excess front and rear was ground / sanded away to leave a smooth face front and rear. Boiler barrel was formed from some brass tube and an insert with captive bolt was created using threaded rod and a nut. The threaded rod will thread into the captive nut in the smoke box. Once the boiler barrel was tightly connected to the smoke box, it was time to mark and cut away a section of the barrel where the motor is located. This cut was initially a little short, and was catching the spare end of the motor shaft, and rather than cut back to this point, I elected to cut a slot to clear the motor shaft. I may adjust this later if there is a need to fit a fly wheel on the motor shaft. This work takes time as the boiler barrel absorbs quite a bit of heat and it takes much longer than normal to get some proper soldered joints. I needed to up the soldering iron to 400 C to make any reasonable progress. Next thing was to mate the boiler / smoke box to the cab front. The threaded rod soldered to the inside top of the boiler should line up with a hole in the cab front. Yeah, right! The hole / threaded rod combination were about 1mm too far to one side, so the hole needed to be elongated to get the correct fit. Took a bit of fettling, but it's more or less in the correct position now. It's not a big issue, as the nut is inside the cab and will not visible. Finally, try it together with the work already complete, et voila! Now it's starting to look like a locomotive!! More soon.
  9. KMCE

    Class 458 Build

    Hello John, Thanks for your comments - much appreciated. As to the questions: For cutting straight lines the following are used depending on material & what's involved Cutting blanks out of the base sheet is with a heavy steel rule and a stanley knife. The sheet is scored multiple times until a faint line is seen on the other side. The piece to be cut off is clamped in a large vice & remaining sheet is bent back and forward to break the joint. The burr created by this needs to be cleaned up with a file. This method is also used to cut straight lines on single sheet smaller pieces, but using a hold and fold tool to clamp the piece. For patterns (tank sides for example), two sheets are lined up and tacked together with solder. I then either mark using a dividers, or if a complex pattern, using a printed template glued on with pritt stick or similar. The scribe mark is better as the metal has a more permanent mark - the paper template has a tendency to get shredded in the cutting an filing process, so lines are not so clear. Straight lines on twin sheets are cut using the piercing saw and then cleaned with the files to get a straight line. The key I have found is to leave enough slack to ensure you don't cross the line, but not too much so you have a load of filing to do. The book I mentioned before recommends the finest of blades for the piercing saw, however I soon got fed up of breaking and replacing blades, so I went for a slightly larger blade, which tracks straighter and is not so brittle. For the rivets I use the Kettering Press which can be bought with different sizes of hammer & anvil for different scales. I got the 0.4mm (OO) and the 0.7mm (O) and use both on the model, as there are clearly larger and smaller rivets on the prototype. I had to make a base, platform and sliding table to hold the work while I press it, as it would be almost impossible to hold small pieces steady enough to get a a reasonable line. the sliding top has a dovetail groove on the underside with two screws fixed in the base below, so slides on the groove without too much lateral movement. The table and base are just made up from scrap timber from the workshop so are not pretty - "form follows function" and all that. To get the straight lines, there is a backstop which helps to keep the rivets in line, and obviously can be set for different depths depending on what you are trying to do. As for the even line, what I found is that when a rivet is punched, the collar on the anvil, acts like a stop (or spacer) and provides a clean evenly space line of rivets. I have found it is not possible to get a tighter set out as the material will not sit properly on the anvil to stamp closer. Wider spacing would need some marks on the material, as there is no indexing facility with this tool Hope that hasn't been too long-winded an answer to the questions and helps. Regrads, Ken
  10. KMCE

    Class 458 Build

    Build progressing nicely. Got out the rivet punch once all sides were properly shaped. Rivets added in a similar fashion to the prototype, but not exactly (just in case any rivet counters want to take me to task). I'm more in the 'effect' rather than 'exact' camp. I kept the front of the tank as part of the side and bent in once the rivets were added. It was over long, and then trimmed to the dimension once the boiler tube was offered up. There may be some final tweaking needed, but seems to fit quite well at the moment. Out with the soldering iron and bunker rear in first on one side followed by the cab back; other side was then fixed in place. I'm keeping the cab front loose for the moment so I can fix that little error once the boiler is in place. All assembled including tank tops we get to this: Bunker tank sides and tops need to be fabricated and installed next - line of rivets on the bunker back have been pressed and can be seen on the photo above. Spectacles on the windows were created from thin cuts of 6mm brass tube filed and sanded until smooth and thin. Bit tricky getting them all the same size - I think the are all pretty much equal - 'ish'. Body was then dry fitted to the footplate for fit. And then onto the chassis to get a look at how it's all coming together A head on view with the body on. Proportions are starting to look a little better - improved camera angle no doubt helping! That little error with the cab front is a little more evident in this photo, hence - keep it loose for the moment until I know what repair is needed. All for now - till the next time. Ken
  11. KMCE

    Class 458 Build

    Getting a run at this. Cab sides were marked and cut out - the P-slot for cab door and window was quite challenging, and needs a little more tidying up. Cab Front and rear were also marked and cut out. Drilling out of the windows caused some burr issues which needed to be filed down, however this then scratched the surface, so some flat sanding with wet and dry will be needed. Can anyone spot the little / big mistake..............Hmm............Looks like the cutout to clear the motor is a little too wide at the shoulders and probably will not be covered by the boiler & tanks. It needed to be the width and height to clear pick ups and motor respectively, but perhaps a more triangular shape would have been better. I may need to get everything into place before soldering in the cab front just to see how much tidying up is needed. I can always add filler pieces with solder and sand to a smooth finish. Anyway.... When all are cut out and filed, we get the following parts almost ready for assembly. Some sanding carried out on the cab front and rear, but more needed.. The sides will need more fettling and cleaning up before i put them together but it's progressing well. While working on the footplate the other day, I also made up the forms for the smoke box. These will be spaced with bolts and some scrap brass initially until the wrapper is added. Bolts can then be removed leaving a nice smoke box (well hopefully anyway) That's all for now. Ken
  12. KMCE

    Guildex, this weekend

    Track work and point rodding is very nicely done also!
  13. KMCE

    Class 458 Build

    Got some more work done this weekend. Starting on the body. So, footplate first. Basic shape cut out and internal shape cut using piercing saw. This tool can definitely be said to operate on the Ouija Board principle - It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more dismal your future becomes. As wavy as those lines look, this is not a bad effort in my books. Anyway, this all gets cleaned up with files and squares to make sure all is straight. Once this is done, buffer beams and valances are needed. Front buffer beam installed, followed by the valances, which in this case are 1mm x 1mm angle. This both provides the visual valance, but also provides considerable strength; a little bit of tweaking to get in all flat, and we arrive at: All good so far. Now to try on the chassis. Without the body, there appears to be a lot of overhang from the wheels to the sides of the foot plate, but a quick check back to the drawings to confirm that it is just over 9 feet (scale) wide. I never really noticed the difference between the inside line of the rail and the outside of the frame, but in this instance is the best part of 2 feet. Head on, it looks a little better, but once the body is filling out the shape, it should look better. (Straighter camera angle would also help!!) Sheets dimensions and tacked together to start work on the cab front & rear as well as sides. More, as time permits, Ken
  14. Eoin, Consider changing to larger gears on the axles? Problem I had with the 495 was the kit came with a 23 tooth gear rather than the 20 tooth needed - difference in diameter was c. 1 mm but too large to fit the gearbox I had. Might be enough to pick up the slack - re-cutting the chassis and moving the bearings up will be pain!! Ken
  15. KMCE

    Class 458 Build

    Progress to date. Bearing pad for bogie has been trimmed back to rest on the centre of the bogie which now applies equal pressure to the wheel sets. Simple "wiper" pickups were added by using copper clad and some phosphor bronze wire. The copper clad is fixed to the subframe, so the contact withe the rear drivers is assured, while contact on the front drivers will depend on track conditions. If the front drivers flex, they may loose contact with the pickup; there is a fine balance here between maintaining contact and excessive spring force from the phosphor bronze. Depending on how the chassis performs, I may put pickups on the trailing wheel, but so far, so good. Motor was wired up and put on the test track to see how it performs. The string is to hold the motor from moving under torque which can be fine tuned later with some cable ties. And behold a running chassis - Eh, No. Much, and I mean much, fettling later with axle bearings and coupling rod holes we have a running chassis. Slow speed could be a little better, so more fettling may be required to just iron out those very minor sticky points. Other than that, we have a fully motorised and compensated chassis. It does need weight to let it run smoothly as the weight is distributed over all axles and not just the drivers, but that can be sorted once the body is constructed and the whole unit run as one. Very happy with progress so far. Onwards and upwards!! Ken

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