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9 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Thanks, Edo, I'll pass that on!

Enjoy!

Follow-up now with publisher.....

What area does the next book cover? 

1 hour ago, BosKonay said:

It's part of our contingency plans that Accurascale will likely stock IRM items in the UK and vice versa, tho we're 'paused' awaiting what carnage January 1 may bring to decide the best option!

Thanks Stephen. Jan 1st is the definition of uncertainty for sure.

Any plans for the Dublin warehouse to also stock Accurascale items?

Has anyone attempted to remove the CAWS/radio pods from the bonnet of either of the CIE Supertrain locos? Just curious if these are glued on or if there is a hole remaining if removed.

3 minutes ago, gm171 kk said:

I'd say SSM do them currently. But I'd say it's better to paint them rather than trying to lay transfers around lights. 

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Thanks. I meant transfers for the hi-vis panels on each end.

The lights would be an interesting modification to make. Paddy includes the red lights as a part in the accessories bag, as some locos had these higher up on the body.

Who would have thought a class of 15 locos could have so many differences?

21 minutes ago, gm171 kk said:

For the IRs, you could put a square surround on the lights over the round ones and that would sort it. However, 130 was the only one of the three that had the 4 lights on each end .

126 was the only loco that I have so far found photographic evidence of with the four marker lights on each end. Any link to a photo of 130 in this configuration?

As for the dayglo, it could in theory be possible to approach Railtec and get them to do a dayglo panel transfer for the 121's.

2 minutes ago, gm171 kk said:

Yes I'd imagine both the wrong lights on 129 and the lights on the IR locos were to avoid extra costs. 

I can't see away around the lights on 129. Even if I replaced the lenses and swapped the red LED for a white one, the decoder would still switch the white light on with the other red one. Maybe it's possible but I wouldn't dare attempt it myself as I have no experience. 

For the IRs, you could put a square surround on the lights over the round ones and that would sort it. However, 130 was the only one of the three that had the 4 lights on each end 

So did 126. Should add that it's not my photo, but a Flickr link (when you paste the link, it seems to show as a photo on the forum)

The lights on the IR locos is even more strange when you consider that the correct tooling exists, and they all should have the same marker light configuration as 129, but without the incorrect bulb issue obviously.

Also, from speaking to PM at the last Dublin model exhibition,  one of the IR locos was supposed to have dayglo panels too, so somehow that also got lost along the way from plans to production.

They are still cracking models, and likely to be the only 121's in town for a long time to come, so for most and myself included, it will be a case of living with some of the issues.

Paddy also alluded to the amount of work that had gone into these locos at the same exhibition,  and I'm sure that he would be as disappointed as anyone if there are issues with the final product.

I still take my hat off to the guy for releasing these models, which amount to the most highly detailed and high specification Irish loco released so far.

21 minutes ago, murphaph said:

Quick question about the IR era marker lights. Were these LEDs or incandescent bulbs?

IR era were incandescent. LEDs were an IE era thing from 2000 onwards.

16 minutes ago, Liam_Murph said:

If I couldn't moan about my first world problem on an internet forum, would it really be a first world problem? 

There was no packaging around the loco box itself at all which is why I count it as lucky that there was not more damage to it. Did you just re-insert the rails into their sockets in the loco body or use a drop of glue with them to hold it in place?

Looks to me like some of the handrails have actually snapped off on that loco and took some of the orange paint with them in the process. Unsure if re-inserting them is an option for some of the stanchions.

These locos are the dog's dangly bits, but are so fragile, that even well packaged, are likely to suffer some damage if they encounter any rough handling at all during their journey in the postal/courier system. This particular loco didnt stand a chance in hell of arriving in one piece with that packaging unfortunately. 

28 minutes ago, Liam_Murph said:

Started bricking it when I went to collect my 121 from the post office today and was presented with this box. Luckily there seems to be no major damages to the model itself.

As they are not attached in the correct position on both sides, I presume the railings along the sides of the locomotive are to be attached once out of the packaging? Or is this a case of them being dislodged during a clearly uncomfortable journey?

Side rails should be attached to the loco. Your ones appear to have broken off in transit.

Was there any other packaging (e.g. bubblewrap) on the loco apart from being placed in an over-sized flimsy box? Doesn't appear to be from the photos, which is really bad form for a loco that costs €190.

My advice would be return it to wherever you purchased it. 

1 hour ago, DJ Dangerous said:

So the font for the numbers is the only difference?

Nope, stencilling and the 'S' wouldnt be on earlier Supertrain period locos. Also, certain detail on the bonnet roof would indicate CAWS era. Tablet catchers had been removed from all locos by end of 1984.

32 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said:

What was the difference between mid seventies ST and mid eighties ST on the 121's?

Already answered a few posts back on this thread.

Any photos of the Supertrain versions yet? Does anyone know if these come with or without tablet catchers?

53 minutes ago, StevieB said:

Is my purchase of some old IRRS journals still on?

Stephen

PM sent

The Railways and Britains Nuclear Industry €7.50

Direct Rail Services €7.50

Modern Locomotives Illustrated Class 37 - The New Era €7.50

Modern Locomotives Illustrated Class 68 and 88 €7.50

Modern Locomotives Illustrated Class 66 Part 2 €7.50

Irish Rail Working Timetable 1987 €10

Irish Rail  Working Timetable 1993 €10

CIE Working Timetable 1978 €10

Locomotives of the GSR €30

Locomotives of the GNRI €30

Payment by Paypal only if posting or cash on collection by arrangement. 

Postage at cost or Parcel Motel also an option (cheaper).

Interesting sentence on the 'Future Plans' section of the MM website which reads :

As of September 2020 we have no plans for future models now that the Class 121 is on sale.

Have a large quantity of duplicate IRRS Journals that I am looking to sell. These are duplicates that I picked up over time as I was filling the gaps in my own collection. Condition ranges from Good to Very Good in book terms. Happy to provide photos of specific issues if required. Can be collected from Dublin City Centre or Wicklow by prior arrangement or posted at cost by normal post or Parcel Motel (cheaper).

Issues available are as follows :

43 June 1967

44 Oct 1967

45 Feb 1968

54 Feb 1971

56 Oct 1971

58 June 1972

60 Feb 1973

61 June 1973

62 Oct 1973

103 June 1987

104 Oct 1987

105 Feb 1988

106 June 1988

116 Oct 1991

117 Feb 1992

118 June 1992

119 Oct 1992

120 Feb 1993

121 June 1993

122 Oct 1993

123 Feb 1994

124 June 1994

125 Oct 1994

126 Feb 1995 ***ON HOLD***

127 June 1995 ***ON HOLD***

128 Oct 1995 ***ON HOLD***

129 Feb 1996

130 June 1996

131 Oct 1996

135 Feb 1998

136 June 1998

137 Oct 1998

138 Feb 1999

143 Oct 2000

144 Feb 2001

145 June 2001

146 Oct 2001

147 Feb 2002

148 June 2002

149 Oct 2002

150 Feb 2003

151 June 2003

152 Oct 2003 ***ON HOLD***

153 Feb 2004

154 June 2004 ***ON HOLD***

155 Oct 2004 ***ON HOLD***

156 Feb 2005 ***ON HOLD***

157 June 2005 ***ON HOLD***

158 Oct 2005 ***ON HOLD***

159 Feb 2006 ***ON HOLD***

160 June 2006 ***ON HOLD***

161 Oct 2006 ***ON HOLD***

162 Feb 2007 ***ON HOLD***

163 June 2007 ***ON HOLD***

164 Oct 2007 ***ON HOLD***

166 June 2008 ***ON HOLD***

167 Oct 2008 ***ON HOLD***

168 Feb 2009 ***ON HOLD***

169 June 2009 ***ON HOLD***

170 Oct 2009 ***ON HOLD***

171 Feb 2010 ***ON HOLD***

172 June 2010 ***ON HOLD***

173 Oct 2010 ***ON HOLD***

Price is €2 per issue, plus postage if required.

Preview of the A Class sound file in this link :

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2F1ZhEQ2fNo9M%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR2hu6LFz4cEIPlRU9WV7UDWcITlm7P6u0lybP38aV5pmmcbLVCqCrinSdE&h=AT0zBDXkaG9HsgyTbJ4Ly_PSXUoqPAkQvSdsSwIlBO9RUJhpuAOTdRxxucajawgNQoh49xAj_kOkq1wy049jH7lSsL18WC7P_Pk_9NGG8IDF6tIpERwIixg6E5dseCfdUc_g&__tn__=-UK-R&c[0]=AT1v8CPXPwGE-B5rFEzvXiSm0vkldQObRSzSNngfN8JT-xb5vk-TbU-MOwUKI2ep0Uv4gmuzXTYKIYjQVf2Iiu19fho1shwPoh3oBU6H_LTAqNb4go1p4qzZrF6VxwXO6bCZWsathvmdRV1Dhlzl88rmqFVs71M_jMMoi-jezMeRAs2SMYogh2b_g9g

Just curious, but would the 3D printing method used on the 20t brake vans not be a more suitable method of manufacturing for a detailed model of the tin vans? I would suspect the brass element of the tin van kits is putting some people off ordering them.

Watching this with interest as I will need a few of these.

Hopefully, the start of a range of detailed RTR items from that period that would never realistically be factory made by any of the mainstream manufacturers. 

9 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

That's the Tardis.

The Dr. was driving the 15:10 Cullybackey - Wellington Bridge Bulk Turnip train that day.............

How about two horseboxes and a black'n'tan loco at Limerick Junction! Was perusing that pic the other day chez Carse........

Sounds interesting. Have always loved seeing Barry's photos in the IRRS Journal over the years. They are also mostly produced in colour from around 2000 onwards, which is also great.

18 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Where we were coming from - Barry Carse has been taking pictures of every aspect of Irish railways, almost entirely in colour, since 1964. I’ve know Barry for over forty years and we often talked about doing a joint book on one thing or another, over the years. His pics, my writings. In both books, the overwhelming majority of pics are his; only one or two of mine, but a few from Barry’s frequent travelling companions in the 1970s, Richard Wall and his brother David Carse.

Over the years, I’d go round to his house the odd evening and he’d get the slide projector out and run through a few boxes. Many (indeed, most) pics would be analysed for a million things.....

”What’s that wagon on the right?”

”I never knew a 101 went there - when did you take that? What was he doing there?”

”Look - that’s an old GNR van in the train.....long way from home!”

”See that second carriage? Must be one of the last in that livery - what date was it again?”

”Who’s that fella beside the signal cabin - what’s he doing?”

.........and so on.....

So “Rails Through The West” was born after the pair of us cycled the Achill branch......dunno if my back could cope with that now.

”North Kerry” followed.

Next? Well, should time permit........we MIGHT have a serious treat for rail freight fans of the 1970-90 period.....

Hope that serious treat materialises. The 1970's period is especially fascinating where old world H wagons, Palvans, Horse Boxes and Bulleid Opens slowly gave way to the new CIE built modern wagon fleet.

Freight was always the more interesting part of railway operations for me anyway, so you definitely have one book sold if it materialises. 

Probably means that it was test run. A lot of UK based model shops would test run locos before mailing them; doesn't mean that a new loco is then classed as used before you receive it.

In any case, should only concern you if you intend to bid on the item, win the item, and then find out that it has signs of use despite being advertised as new. Still not an issue as the ebay gaurantee covers such a situation in terms of returning the item.

That's an amazing piece of reference material. I was actually browsing IRFN over the last few days to try and get an understanding of what ran when and in what livery as regards the 1950-1970 period, but you have saved me the trouble now. Many thanks for your efforts.

One question though, what does the numbers in some of the panels refer to e.g. 187M, 1396 - is it a paint code?

Perhaps this post or thread should be stickied for future reference on the forum.

Try @WRENNEIRE on this site. Pretty sure he has a few for sale or at least he did about a week ago.