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Go to your local model factors and get them to mix a spray can to the ral number, make sure to use a primer first and you ll be grand. If you do go down this route buy a respiratory mask and only spray in a well ventilated area. Also put the spray can in warm water before use.

Des at ssm or Steve at railtec may be able to help with the decals.

Buy the loco and sell the body to the uk market, the class 25 is a bit too long for the c class. The biggest problem is the small gap between the bogies as this is where the motor would go. Bachmann co cos such as the cl 55/37 are way too long for the a class due to the same problem as the c class.

Don t think so Stephen, the ssm kit is the only one (im pretty sure Des would sell you a few bogie kits seperate from the wagon kits), the only other ones that have been produced are the old mir ones but their pretty rare these days.

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Saw an Expressway bus yesterday which was in the recently replaced red, white and orange livery. It recalled to mind the original "Expressway" branding in the 70s, when CIE simply replaced the cream on the upper panels with what looked like standard railway orange - perhaps to make the bus look more "main line".

 

So, public transport orange is not yet dead. It's still on some service buses, and still on the stored 201s in Inchicore, as well as the odd window frame on a grey 071!

071 has an orange wiper but i Don t think any of the other grey 071's have orange windows, quite a few of the black/silver 071's have orange window frames/doors and others have quite a bit of orange showing through especially in the fan areas on the roof. 112 also has orange frames. Theres also a mark 3 & craven near Kildare plus the stock in west clare. The c class in Carrick on Suir is still in Supertrain livery.

Yes, theres quite a few around. Have a look in the workbench section

Horse, there is a sideview of cls E No 110 Bat in Ernie Shepherd"s Midland Great Western of Ireland page 128. Lucky man wish I had seen that kit!!

Could be worse, i saw it and forgot about it , would have fitted in nicely with my Waterford to Tramore line plans.

http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/archive/index.php/t-1471.html

Try this .

The hornby or bachmann ones need a lot of work to get them to look right. Theres a few links in the link above that explain the differences in the sambre meuse product range.

Check out the os maps on the ordance survey website, the historic maps are a great resource for track plans, signal & other railwayana locations.

http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/1060-Off-The-Beaten-Track

Enniscorthyman covered the incident about half way down this thread.

What happened?

The loco caught fire while hauling the weedsprayer on the line in the early 1990's. She was later hauled back to Inchicore and was never repaired.

121 pre New Ross incident

A Waterford to Mallow layout, yes please .

On the 121's, they ran for the best part of 50 years in everyday service. Id easily would take 6 or more and i think the majority of active modellers for the era's that they ran in would buy the same amount and in some cases even more. During their careers they've probably covered most if not all of the post 1961 railways on the Island, have done just about every job on the network from express Cork to Dublin services to pw trains in their later years. Livery wise they ve carried quite a few liveries grey/yellow, black/tan, supertrain, ir black/orange & IE black/orange.

Theres plenty of choice and if your in any doubt look at the amount of 071/111 models were released, nearly the same amount of real life locos existed 21 071/111's v 15 121's.

As pointed out already they ran in quite a few formations, from on their own, in doubles with other 121's, 141's, 181's. Plus push pull modes with mk3's, old railcar units especially near where there is an existing strong modelling base ie Dublin and they also done mk3 p/p out of Cork as well for a few years.

For my lot id be looking at 4 IE livery, 2( prob 3) in Ir livery and will probably go for a grey/yellow as well.

Email sent Des

Nice one

Will be in touch Des

I ll take one Des

Mayner called it correctly.

 

 

I've finalised the Irish Commonwealth bogie, a very different creature than its UK counterpart. Note that it comes as a mirrored set. This will be sold with an etched bogie and wheels (like the 42' bogie flat). I hope to provide buffers and cast gangway as well.

 

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Nice one Des, they look the business

Think i ve reached it loco wise although i admit there ll be a few that ll sneak past , (currently avoiding pics of 233 like the plague) Im trying to concentrate on building up a few rakes of wagons and finish off a few existing projects. The reason why i model that era is simple, its what i grew up with, memories of spotting days at Abbey junction (Bell liners lined up, endless rakes of beet, New Ross ferts, the odd grain special heading into the mills, winding up the odd bus gricer and all that before we hopped on our bikes to catch rail deliveries at North Wharf or out to New Rath to catch the rest of the freight & passenger movements in the area. There was also endless happy days of hanging around various spots in the Cork area to catch the ammonias, liners etc.

We are currently been spoiled for choice, yes theres significant gaps in every era of Irish railways but with time they ll be filled in and hopefully keep the visa card/wallet busy well into the future .

Well then - go build your own to your own high standards if that's the way you feel.

Perhaps other peoples standards aren't as high as your own - doesn't mean they should listen to you and boycott whoever, just so they will produce a higher standard rtr model for you to buy

Didn t say boycott, i like others on here who have bought items of this company have every right to complain if a model doesn t meet expectations. I gave my honest opinion on the kit which im quite entitled to make, no point in saying there great when there not. As for the last part i ll buy high standard models of any producer if it fits into my modelling timescale.

Yes, but once again you forget the huge number of modellers who don't have the necessary skill, time or inclination to build their own models from kits or from scratch.

These people will happily pay for RTR models and will accept any detail discrepancies, minor or major.

 

You point out that 30 years ago they made what wasn't available. I would argue that the improvement of RTR model has probably sustained interest in the hobby, making it accessibly to many people who would otherwise not attempt railway modelling due to a lack of modelling skill.

But why accept basic expensive rtr models when the standards today are so much higher? I want a rake of fertiliser wagons and have done since before mir ceased trading but i won t buy the alternatives as they don t meet the standard that i expect for that kinda money. Had the opportunity to buy a rake of them a few years ago and i wasn t impressed at all. For 80 yoyos a model i expect a certain standard.

If people keep supporting these models at this level of detailing etc then thats what they ll get into the future.

Life too seems busier than yesteryear with more pressure on time, folks working longer hours, commutes, demands of life, family, etc. It doesn't seem that long ago folks knew how to change a plug, put egg white in a leaky radiator to get a car home, use ladies nylons if a fan belt broke, or clean the contacts on a distributor cap if it got wet! Times move on, ladies don't wear nylons anymore, cars have electronic ignitions , cars only need light servicing every 30k, most folks never have to lift the bonnet of a car from the day they buy it to the day they sell it except to put windscreen washer in it. I guess its the same with model railways. Loss of time, loss of desire to kit build = loss of experience and skills, hence greater demand for RTR especially as there is now plenty of RTR available unlike 20 years ago. Also materials have moved on.

 

Another hobby of mine was RC aero modelling. I usually scratch built from plans, or the occasional kit, and then ARTFs and RTFs started dominating the scene 15 years ago, now hardly anybody builds anything, its now more of a 'fit out' operation - way of the modern world. Also there was a huge shift away from traditional materials such as balsa, spruce, and lite-ply, to modern materials such as fibreglass, carbon fibre composites, synthetic coverings and resin paints.

Noel, i work 60 hours a week, have a young family and do the long commute. Can usually build and finish a kit or scratchbuild within the week & i consider myself an average modeller so i don t think that excuse washes to be honest.

Bottom line for €50 plus i expect decent instructions for a decent kit, the ifm park royal kit was neither. I shouldn t have to dig through the net for decent prototype pics to work out were the basic detail thats included in the kit is located.

Times have moved on, silly mistakes, lack of basic detail shouldn t be accepted. As blaine put it a basic park royal rtr costs the same as 2 highly detailed cravens it shouldn t be that way lads.

On the curve part the minimum radius is 80 meters for a yard, 115 meters for a running line and 141 meters for a hauled train. As these are the minimum a 201 needs to take a curve I presume its the minimum requirements for most of the present day network. In modelling terms unless your going to build your own or get them commissioned there isn t much to choose from. The nearest thing to them would be the long or express points offered by various companies. Setrack or small points should be avoided were possible especially when operating modern long wheelbase stock as it looks wrong.