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  1. Hey guys,

     

    I know DMU's usually arent very popular among rail fans because they replace our beloved standalone loco's but having grown up along the Dart Line i have a fondness for them. They dont really get much representation in the model world in Ireland yet. I was recently at the Bray Toys of Yesterday fair and Wrenneire showed me a beautiful respray of a BR DMU in a CIE livery which got me wondering what DMU/EMU's/Railcars have set foot in this country since rail began here. I see alot of great posts about locos etc but not much about this topic. Perhaps ive missed a post somewhere. Any history experts out there know more on this topic?

     

    John, if you can get your hands on Journal 164 (October 2007) of the Irish Railway Record Society it has a potted history of Irish diesel railcars 1907-2007.

  2. You've reminded me, Mayner, yes, I remember that too.

     

    I'm nearly certain - but stand to be corrected - that it was industrial relations. The fact that the UTA had abolished all internal goods traffic within the north in 1965, and thus never had its own liner trains, could possibly have resulted in there being no provision in the UTA / NIR rule book for guard-less trains.

     

    Sorry JHB but you have contradicted yourself. If there was no provision in the UTA/NIR rule book for the operation of guardless trains then CIÉ would have been required to operate its trains with a guard north of the border irrespective of what agreements had been reached with unions regarding workings in the Republic. The provision of a guard would have been an operational requirement dictated by UTA/NIR.

     

    Indeed, to this day NIR, as a policy decision, uses 'Conductor Guards' on its passenger services. This would have more to do with revenue protection and passenger securitry that the traditional function of the guard. But it still means two-person staffing of trains in Northern Ireland and, because of this, guards also operate on the Enterprise service despite IÉ/union agreement for OPO operations on the IÉ network.

  3. I think that there are two issues being confused here - (a) the elimination of brake vans on goods trains and (b) the doing away with guards on trains. The first, elimination of brake vans on goods trains, was, as has already been said, brought about by the introduction of fitted wagons on goods trains. When this happened the guard rode in the locomotive in, I think, the leading cab. The use of a brake van on a nominally fully fitted train would, I think, have indicated a problem with the brake system. The second question - doing away with guards on trains - depended on the availability of train radio on various lines. In the event of a train failure one of the guard's duties was to assist the driver in protecting the train and until there was a reliable method of doing this without the need for a second man the guard remained. Of course there were union issues in both cases but mainly in the second case where there was a reduction in jobs.

  4. *or Pullmen, who knows..?

     

    Reminds me of the tale:

     

    A Kerry tailor wanted to buy two new irons (a tailor's iron is called a 'goose'), so he wrote away to the manufacturers as follows:

     

    Dear Sir,

    Please send me two gooses..........

    After reading the letter he decided that this wouldn't do, so he changed it to Dear Sir, Please send me two geese............

    However, he again felt that there was something wrong and that the manufacturers would be laughing at him. Finally he hit upon the following:

     

    Dear Sir, Please send me a goose.........

     

    P.S. While you're at it, you may as well send me a second one.

  5. It's at times like this I wish I had a fully landscaped up layout to run trains on for taking video....

    Eoin

     

    Don't worry about that Eoin. The quality of your models stand on their own merits, landscape or not. I was critical of the first generation models, but you have listened to all the comments from various sources and the current version is outstanding. Well done!!!!

  6. Naught as strange as folk!

     

    I am always thankful for my life and that which it has given me - Always think of these words when ever I read or hear this type of story - "There but for the grace of God could I have been".

     

    We are the lucky ones!!

     

    Never were truer words written David.

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