josefstadt

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Irish-rail-two-car-set-2700-class-/262180276009?hash=item3d0b298729:g:LjkAAOSwwE5WZdjd

Must be part of IÉ's overseas operations - destination Norwich!

No, horsetan, that's grey....

Would it not be possible to put a 009 kit body on a HOm/TT frame?

It would depend on the size relationship between the 009 body and the HOm/TT frame. It could be done, maybe with some modifications to the length and width of the body.

BEMO HOm rolling stock is very expensive. May not be cost-effective.

Agreed that it is a bit costly, but it's not outlandishly over priced. For example, Modellbahnshop-lippe.com (mentioned on an earlier thread in connection with DCC decoders) have the following:

€44.90 (would look great in GNRI blue & cream!)

€44.90

€49.90

€35.96

I've used them and have been very happy with the level of service they give.

121 Class locos were used on the ex-AEC push-pulls operating the Bray-Greystones shuttle for the period between the withdrawal of the last of the B201 Class in November 1986 and the withdrawal of the final push-pull on 14 September 1987. The shuttle ceased to operate from that date.

The 80-class DEMUs hired from NIR took over the working of the shuttle and the service was restored from 30 October 1987. They remained on the service until 25 November 1990 when, at 13:26, the final shuttle departed from Greystones. From that date until DART services commenced almost ten years later on 10 April 2000, Greystones was served only by the Up and Down Arklow commuter services and the three Rosslare Harbour trains in each direction.

Some of the European manufacturers, Bemo for example, produce HOm rolling stock which could form the basis of adaptions to Irish stock. Probably handier than trying to convert 009 stock.

Thanks due to 'Old Blarney' for finding the photo.

Following on from JHB's question in post #20, Old Blarney has asked me to post the following picture. It is the train referred to by Mayner in post #29, showing 2616/17 at Portarlington with what appears to be a clerestory coach as the intermediate vehicle.

A bit in the future I know, but Dún Laoghaire Rathdown County Council have just published details of its programme of events for next year. Some items of railway interest included are:

10 March 2016 - Venue: Dlr Lexicon, Dún Laoghaire at 19:00

Michael Mallin: a lecture by Brian Hughes:

In 1966 Dun Laoghaire Railway station was renamed Mallin Station in honour of one of the executed leaders of the Rising. In this talk Brian Hughes, author of Michael

Mallin: 16 Lives, will tell the story of Michael Mallin, former British soldier, who commanded the garrison of rebels in St Stephen’s Green and the College of Surgeons during Easter Week. He was Chief-of-Staff and second-in-command to James Connolly in the Irish Citizen Army. Organised by Coiste Éirí Amach 1916 DLR in conjunction with DLR County Council.

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23 March 2016 - Venue: Dlr Lexicon at 19:00

Major John MacBride, a lecture by Donal Fallon:

On Easter Monday morning Major John MacBride left his home at Spencer Villas, Glasthule, to meet his brother off the train in Dublin – he was to be the best man at his wedding. However, when this former soldier of the Boer War saw that a Rising was about to start he joined the Volunteers. Although he did not play a key role in the Rising he was executed in Kilmainham Jail. Donal Fallon is an historian and a guide with Historical Walking Tours of Dublin and one of the founder of the award-winning blog on Dublin life and culture, ‘Come Here to Me’. Organised by Coiste Éirí Amach 1916 DLR in conjunction with DLR County Council.

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Date & Time to be confirmed - Venue Dún Laoghaire Mallin Station

Iarnrod Eireann will be producing an installation at Michael Mallin Station, Dún Laoghaire, to mark the centenary of the Rising.

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Interesting photo. Is that a portable ESB inspection crew car in the background suspended from HT cables or some sort of mini industrial cable car? Given there are two cars suspended it looks like the latter but where and for what purpose? (Forgive the drift but it's a curious photo)

Noel, it was an aerial ropeway which was used by Irish Cement to move limestone and shale from its quarry on the North Road to the cement factory at Boyne Road. Opened on March 29th 1938 it was 2¼ miles long and consisted of 140 metal buckets suspended from the wire rope at 58-yard intervals, the cable being supported on towers or pylons spaced 100 yards apart. Each bucket could carry about 1 ton of material and they moved at 4 mph. The system closed down on January 20th 1978, having reportedly carried over 21 million tons of material in that time. Subsequently it was dismantled and sold for scrap. (Thanks to the 'Classic Irish Buses Website - 75 years of buses in Drogheda' for the details of the system)

Found this picture in the O'Dea Collection at the National Libary note the Handbrake which is a wheel as compared to a lever and the position of the Vacuum Bag/hose. http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000307375

The wagon in this photo, 25062, is one of the first series of bulk cement wagons built, dating from 1964. In Steventrain's post above, the first two images are of wagons from the final series, 25199 and 25172, introduced 1972 and have the hand brake lever and the different vacuum bag arrangement. The third image is of a first series wagon, 25051, with the same vacuum bag arrangement, but with a lever instead of a wheel for the hand brake, suggesting that the wagon's hand brake was modified at some stage.

The O'Dea collection also contains this image of an empty bulk cement train approaching Drogheda headed by A32 (dated June 1967): http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000306207

I remember a van / vans like this on summer Sunday services on the Bray line during the mid to late 1960s, operating with trains composed entirely of non-corridor compartment stock.

Did the ACE / 2600 class have the exhaust attached to the rear beside the gangway like the BR 105 or underfloor?

The exhaust was, as far as I can remember, underfloor.

The "overhead live wires" warning is perfect for Platin and Limerick....... :-/

Might be slightly more meaningful between Malahide and East Wall Junction!

As requested JHB:

Talking of things catering, remember these:

Easier to read:

For those with sore heads:

Brendan Pender and Herbert Richards’ book ‘GSWR Carriage Diagrams’ (Transport Research Associates 1975) makes no mention of a vehicle numbered 1097. It does contain diagrams for 1096 and for 1098/99. However, these carriages fall into two distinct types.

No. 1096 (on page 51) is shown as a 1924-built, 52’ 0” long tri-composite with 12 first and 16 second class seats, both in compartments, and 24 third class seats in an open saloon. This carriage has gangways at both ends.

Nos. 1098 and 1099 (on page 23) are shown as 1911-built, 52’ 0” long tri-composite with 12 first and 17 second and 24 third class seats, all in compartments. These carriages do not have gangways at either end and appear to be identical to to ones shown on page 1 of this thread.

When turned the right way up:

And when turned back to front:

Funnily enough reliable operation during leaf fall was supposed to be one of the major advantages of the 121 hauled MK3 push-pull stock over railcars on the Drogheda suburban trains.

 

Oliver Doyle wrote about placing the loco at the North end of the train and propelling towards Dublin was to reduce wheel slip on up morning suburban trains.

 

The coaches of a 5 or 6 coach set was supposed to crush and fragment the leaves/ice, and the loco theoretically running in idea rail conditions.

The same reasoning was applied to the design of the Japanese DARTs, hence the positioning of the power cars in the centre of the units.

Seriously though, here are JHB's photos the right way round:

I get on OK with mine.

Reminds me of this guy's laptop ....

!!!

Thanks Josef. I feel a 121 and an SF AEC conversion being pair up.

The final set was Control Car 6107. Intermediate 6311 and Connector Car 6206. Locomotive 130 was noted on the service on 26 March 1987.

PS: Did any of the baby GMs ever get used for push/pull with converted AEC sets, or was that just C class?

121 Class locos were used on the ex-AEC push-pulls operating the Bray-Greystones shuttle for the period between the withdrawal of the last of the B201 Class in November 1986 and the withdrawal of the final push-pull in September 1987. As far as I know, members of the 141 and 181 classes were never used on push-pulls.