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Bump - updated as bus has now been confirmed.

Just now, Broithe said:

Ah, I did have the Lego motor unit an the individual rails.

Lego had the advantage of packing down with little airspace and not being very fragile.

With traction tyres and ridged rails, it would ascend a fair slope and rather extreme bridges could be constructed.

The batteries fitted in the larger box, above the motor housing.

You could, of course, make all sorts of things with the motor as the basis, no just railway-related items.

Traction tyres... now that you say it I had a Tomy set that I'm pretty certain had such features. You could plug in Lego bricks to the platforms too I think...

Probably had various Thomas and Brio sets when I was small but my first 'proper' trainset was the Hornby "Diesel Breakdown" set...

It was the Christmas of 1997 which as some may recall was during a big storm... we had no power for days so I couldn't use it. 

Quite a bit of play value in it to be fair, later discovered the 06 'never ran like that' but at that age I couldn't care...

1 hour ago, Horsetan said:

I think that just leaves two surviving Bredins, one at the RPSI, and the other as a grounded body (no bogies) at Moyasta

One more, 1144 (the only GSR-built 1st) survives sans running gear at Dromod.

Although there's a debate that none of these should really be called Bredins but it's too early in the morning for that... 

Re: AM13, I believe she survived as an RPSI spares coach into the early 2000s, at Heuston I think.

One point on the BR generator vans, over time they got so weather-worn and battered that I wouldn't worry if it doesn't perfectly match the Cravens. Some of them ended up quite patchwork when you looked close. 

If you're not paying for the product, you're the product, et al... 

The plated up windows were certainly removed when they reverted to standards (I remember stripping 1520 for parts for the RPSI set). My understanding is that 1518/20 didn't have lockups at the counter unlike 1508/9 and the mk2a ones, open to correction though.

In a way, the Talylln in Wales is probably an oddball for having 'normal' standard gauge-type buffers and drawgear.

34 minutes ago, skinner75 said:

What about Tracy and Sharon (Shard'n) 

B1 Sharon

1 minute ago, GSR 800 said:

Deirdre and Grainne, don't remember anything about Aoife

Deirdre rings a bell now... 

Though what the GSR would have done with 3 additional route-restricted 4-6-0s is another thing altogether...

If you're creative, there was a list of names for proposed additional 800s never built... Aoife off the top of my head (my sister's name so it stuck in my memory more than the others). I think @jhb171achill might have info on them.

Re: 'Cultra' edition 800, I believe it's CIÉ dark green with GS lettering, based on what supplies Inchicore had when sending her north.

On 6/12/2022 at 9:56 AM, Galteemore said:

Just remember Patrick, steam is a fairly broad genre…..it might not be blue or green ….

A real life kitbash.

12 hours ago, Galteemore said:

The guys do have a strong working relationship with Downpatrick…https://www.downrail.co.uk/rolling-stock/cset-no-1/?cn-reloaded=1

While I won't wager money on it, a model O&K with accurate valve gear and motion would be a thing of beauty.

Curious that Waterford Manor and Tramore weren't of matching length, given I assume they were procured at the same time for the same locos?

10 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Right.

I'm reading between the lines. They are producing a limited edition of 8112 of some blue Ulster Translink Authority diesel, or two men in orange thingies.

Am I getting close?

It's obviously the measuring tape.

7 minutes ago, ak425 said:

Up to early 1995, 121s did operate bonnet first. The 1135 Adelaide to North Wall liner was regularly worked by a single 121. After some shunting in Dundalk, the 121 would propel part of the liner past the junction to Barrack Street and then work bonnet first down the branch. Also a brake van was at opposite end for the two reverse workings. After more shunting of the wagons collected from Barrack Street, the brake van was left in Dundalk and the liner continued to North Wall.

How was the loco turned in Belfast (Or did it work up with a 141/181 and split?).

I believe this continued to happen on occasion at Rosslare even into the early 2000s if one turned up on the Limerick/Waterford-Rosslare. The ITG journal records a few occasions.

Did the Waterford & Tramore have some perchance? Can't find my copy of Coakham's book, but it had a list of its stock...

The CB&SCR had a four wheeler, No.7, ex DN&GR. Later became a Signal dept van in GSR days.

3 hours ago, Irishswissernie said:

 

Ennis. Ex Tralee & Dingle Coach 39 same date.

  

 

 now that does whet the appetite for the return of 7T.

Indeed, it's probably worth bearing in mind that even for GB-outline 6 wheel stock there wasn't a sufficient market to make specific tooling for each individual railway, as opposed to this generic type, much as I'd like some chunky MGWR 6 wheelers.

The real 850 was built using parts for an unbuilt Woolwich mogul, I wonder is there a kitbash to be had there...

32 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

Six wheelers in the black'n'tan era 1963-70

While ALL passenger-carrying ones disappeared in 1963, thus just missing the new livery, some six full vans survived. Two were withdrawn shortly afterwards, still light green - but would have run with black and tan bogie stock. Another one I suspect also remained light green. The other three (69, now at Downpatrick; 79 and another) definitely were repainted black'n'tan. The one whose number I can't recall was on the Ballaghaderreen branch when it closed, and also on the 1964 all-Ireland steam tour; I don't know what happened to it after that. The other two were to be seen in the mid-1960s on the Galway line with one (I think 79) a regular on the up day mail. Haulgae, of couures for these, would be any black, black and yellow or Crossley-era black'n'tan livery on an "A", or B121 / 141 / 181 types in the original black'n'tan, or a grey 121 too. They could have been hauled by the C class though these were rarely on passenger haulage after the West Cork closed.

By the time the AR (GM-engines) appeared, the last of these are gone. Obviously any supertrain or later livery on anything isn't historically accurate - though it IS your railway!

Based on this lovely shot by Roger Joanes, 1077 appears to be the one of the 1964 tour (possibly one of the most well-travelled Irish carriages as such, widespread as they were I doubt many GSWR vehicles would have got to places like Ardee).  

1 hour ago, Westcorkrailway said:

They’ll look good with the infamous Tailte tours Bachmann/Murphy’s  K class.

 

Now you've given me an idea for a little headboard to go on my Woolwiches... if I only I knew the person who has the design for it though.

I was just going for some early green ones but I may have fell on the keyboard and accidently ordered the B&T one as well.

I quite like those photos of it against a rake of bogies on the likes of the Grand Steam tour, I'm a sucker for 'wrong' liveries in a rake.