Niles

7 minutes ago, Mike Beckett said:

Pat and the gang need to get the finger out and make a G class.

No, not a Finger. A finger.

They should make a Finger too though. I need one for my Fenit Pier diorama. 

No idea if a G ever met a plough van in CIE days, but they sure look well together (I suppose it possibly happened when a G was the unofficial Limerick Wagon Works pilot?). The pair have already had a few wanderings together.

Plough van 24582 was preserved by the Downpatrick & County Down Railway back in August, along with ballast hoppers 24122, 24145, and 26633. 

20 hours ago, MOGUL said:

There was an article about Castlerock in the IRRS journal a couple of years back that mentioned and might even had a pic of a 101 and a MV/ c class double heading a fertiliser..

Will see if I can find which journal it was

Pretty certain I've seen a pic of a MV/C and a Hunslet double heading on one of the early ITG tours (I presume two drivers).

At least one DSER 2-4-2T tank seems to have wandered to West Cork in GSR days; a photo of same adorns the cover of Ernie Sheperd's book on the Cork, Bandon & South Coast Railway.

8 hours ago, Mayner said:

The LNER classification system seems to have originated on the Great Northern Railway (England!) under Henry Ivatt (ex-GSWR man) as CME.

GSWR introduced a similar "Inchacore Class" system in which the 213 Class 0-6-2T t received the classification "I"

It looks like the "Inchacore" system was introduced following J R Bazin's (an ex-Doncaster man) appointment as GSWR CME in 1920 his powerful 500 Class 4-6-0s are designated B1 while to older inside cylinder 362 Class 4-6-0s were classified as B3.

The 'Inchacore' system was modified following the 1925 amalgamation with some classes re-designated subject to reflect tractive effort 341 "Sir William Goulding" the GSRs most powerful 4-4-0 was re-classified from D3 to D1 and the 333 Class Rosslare Bogies re-classified from D1 to D2,3,4 and the two 213 Class Banking Tanks re-classified from "i" to I1. The tiny McDonnell 0-6-0T 90, 99,10 were re classified from J13 to J30.

The main theoretical benefit of the GSR system is that it would have allowed motive power planners who were unfamiliar with locos from different pre-amalgamation companies to identify and allocate locos to meet traffic requirements based on wheel arrangement and hauling power.

In practice the Southern, Midland, South Eastern and West Cork systems continued to operate as separate railways under common ownership, retaining pre-amalgamation motive power and operating practices to the end of steam. The main exceptions were GSWR D4 4-4-0s and MGWR G2 2-4-0s taking over passenger duties on the South Eastern as a result of Civil War casualties and the indigenous motive power wore out, occasional swapping of GSWR & MGWR 4-4-0s on Nenagh and Sligo Road passenger services and  the long term loan of ex-MGWR 0-6-0s for the Waterford Area Beet campaign.

 

Ah, didn't realise it predated the GSR itself. Interesting background there on the benefits for clerical staff.

On 30/9/2022 at 11:34 AM, Niles said:

Someone will know the exact number, but I'm pretty certain I've read of a J15 being used as a stationary boiler in Cork after steam had officially ended.

Some Sunday afternoon book browsing reveals it was 118.

Lovely. And interesting how the numerals are placed over the 'fold', a tricky modelling proposition with transfers.

On 24/9/2022 at 4:23 PM, jhb171achill said:

 

 

I’ve also a particular liking for this loco:

Always wondered by the GSR chose I for 0-6-2T when it otherwise followed the LNER convention (which would be N). I think, unless there were other examples. 
(Or did the LNER follow them?)

Edit: it occurs to me that G didn't follow LNER convention either.

4 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

which means that the bandon tanks were the unrivalled best tank engines ever based on longevity…..don’t follow me up on that one 

 

The most handsome too.

Interesting, didn't realise non-preserved CIE steam locos lingered on in existence as late as 1966.

10 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

Any idea what the last locomotive used as a stationary boiler was? I recall 463 and 464 were used as stationary boilers at the time. We’re J-15s and such used for that purpose? 

Someone will know the exact number, but I'm pretty certain I've read of a J15 being used as a stationary boiler in Cork after steam had officially ended.

3 hours ago, Wexford70 said:

How much was raised for the railways?

We're planning on making a formal announcement on this over the next few weeks once the final batch of badge sales come in and the last few invoices are settled—stay tuned!

20 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

I know Sean of old; it WILL be a good one!

It certainly is!

2 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said:

Another run for A3R today on my lunch break.

I have no more track that I'm prepared to chop up until I know what I'm doing with this, so that's it for now.

I do have some uncouplng ramps and I guess a SuperTrain blue Tara run would be nice later...

 

 

Loving the cat chorus in the background. 

Just a quick update, the No.36 and Enterprise 201 badges are now practically sold out. Still some stock of the 800 class and mkIV DVT available, message me for details or email hello@tailtetours.com

Or order here: https://www.tailtetours.com/shop

Kinda reminds me of the Campbeltown and Machrihanish Railway locos even if not quite the same.

Recap of the railtour now on our blog: https://www.tailtetours.com/post/premier-rose-railtour-postscript

(Recap of the Sunday tour to follow when get a breather between day jobs ).

Whether it will come to pass or not is quite another thing, but the 2040 Freight Strategy refers to hybrid locos being sought to replace the 071s towards the end of the decade.

I'm calling it now, 5'3 gauge Vectrons... 

• Iarnród Éireann mkIV Control Car
• CIE Green 800 Class steam loco
• GSWR Bury 2-2-2 No.36 (As preserved in Kent Station, Cork)
• Modern Enterprise livery 201 class loco

On 20/8/2022 at 2:01 PM, DJ Dangerous said:

 

Those 2600's must be the guts of 30 years on the go by now? Definitely a good model for IRM to release!

 

Funny, I was only chatting to someone on Saturday about the merits of preserving one of these when the bell does toll (we also decided there and then that it'll be in Arrow livery, we'll worry about little things like storage, cost and logistics later )

A pleasure guys, the support was way beyond what any of us expected. It was heartwarming to see so much cross-cooperation from across the modelling community, the general enthusiast community, the heritage community, and Iarnród Éireann themselves (and I know some of you fall into all those categories!). 

We'll say more in time but for now all I can say is, the question has changed from 'if' we run a 2nd tour to 'when' we run a second tour.  

Oh, little model-related tidbit, when I was arranging the headboard with the supplier we used a photo of a Bachmann Woolwich mogul as a reference.

Features on Saturday's tour have been confirmed to include:

• Irish Railway Record Society stand
• County Donegal Railway Heritage Centre stand (I believe @airfixfan will have some lovely new books and badges for sale)
• Clifton Flewitt's renowned railway book stall
• Raffle (seriously, the prizes to be had will make it worth entering, @mphoey and @jhb171achill have managed to get some fantastic prizes thanks to some generous sponsors who'll be revealed soon...

If you haven't got your ticket for the tour you can still do so at:

https://www.tailtetours.com/events/the-premier-rose-railtour

'53 looks better than you'd think after the fire a few years ago, would have thought it a goner. Good to see otherwise.

The perfect compromise (it was taken on a Nokia C3-01 so excuse the quality, an alleged 'hybrid' smart/normal phone, remember them?)

8 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said:

I think that looks lovely in the CIE green - would love to see a whole rake of them like that.

I agree, I like to think in another universe there's one going around like that on charter work...